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Old 07-28-2011, 10:14 AM
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Default T206 backs' rankings

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In my opinion, Jim's list is more accurate. Jim Rivera's list is more up to date than the T206guide.com's list in this specific area.

Jim Rivera's list
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11. Carolina Brights

12. American Beauty 460

13. Hindu brown

14. American Beauty 350 no frame

15. Sovereign 460-(the six super prints are very difficult with this back)

16. Cycle 460

17. Piedmont 350-460 factory 42


T206guide.com's list
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9 Piedmont 350-460 .... Factory 42, 4th Dist. NC

10 Blank Back N/A

11 Lenox (black) .... (Assorted) Factory 30, 2nd Dist NY

12 Broad Leaf 350 .... Factory 25, 2nd Dist. VA

13 Carolina Brights .... (Assorted) Factory 25, 2nd Dist.

14 Sovereign 460 .... Factory 25, 2nd Dist. VA

15 Hindu (brown) .... (Assorted) Factory 649, 1st Dist. NY

16 American Beauty 460 .... Factory 42, 4th Dist. NC


Furthermore, I'll add this info based on my experience in completing an all-SOVEREIGN set......

The 46 regular cards in the 460-Only series are tough; but, not as tough as the Six Super Prints (SSP) with the Sovereign 460 back.
These SSP cards (Chance, 2-Chase's, Cobb, Evers, Matty) were Short-Printed and are extremely tough to find. There should be two
separate rankings on the list for these two categories.


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Old 07-28-2011, 10:18 AM
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Thanks for your input, Ted. I wasn't aware of the Sovereign super prints...so much to learn about this set, it's rediculous!

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Old 07-28-2011, 10:42 AM
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Here are the T206 super-prints....these 6 subjects are found with as many as 24 different T206 backs (considerably
more than most of the other T206 subjects have).


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Due to the fact that I'm trying to put together a Cubs T206 Sovereign set, this isn't good news!
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Due to the fact that I'm trying to put together a Cubs T206 Sovereign set, this isn't good news!
The Chance Yellow Portrait and Evers Chicago Superprints are difficult to find with Sovereign 460 backs. But you should be able to find them with Sovereign 350 backs.

Here's the thread that discusses it:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=sovereign

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The following list is the one Jim Rivera and I are currently working from. We have discussed at great length recently moving a few of the backs up or down the list but for now they remain put.

1 - Ty Cobb
2 - Old Mill (Southern Leagues) - Brown*
3 - Lenox - Brown
4 - Broad Leaf 460
5 - Drum 350
6 - Uzit
7 - Hindu - Red
8 - Lenox - Black
***Red Cross Type 1***
9 - Broad Leaf 350
10 - Blank Back*
***Coupon Type 1***
11 - Carolina Brights
12 - Piedmont 350-460 Factory No.42
13 - American Beauty 460
14 - Hindu - Brown
15 - American Beauty 350 (No Frame)
16 - Sovereign 460
17 - Cycle 460
18 - Tolstoi
19 - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.25
20 - El Principe De Gales
21 - American Beauty 350 (Frame)
22 - Sovereign 350 (Apple Green)
23 - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.42
24 - Cycle 350
25 - Old Mill (Southern Leagues) - Black
26 - Sovereign 150
27 - Sweet Caporal 150 Factory No.649 Overprint
28 - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.42 Overprint
29 - Old Mill (Base Ball Subjects)
30 - Polar Bear
31 - Sovereign 350 (Forest Green)
32 - Sweet Caporal 150 Factory No.25
33 - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.30
34 - Sweet Caporal 150 Factory No.30
35 - Piedmont 150 Factory No.25
36 - Piedmont 350-460 Factory No.25
37 - Sweet Caporal 350 Factory No.25
38 - Sweet Caporal 350 Factory No.30
39 - Piedmont 350 Factory No.25

This list is based solely on the overall scarcity of one back in relation to another. No emphasis or additional weight was placed on a particular subject or subset within a back group that is believed or perceived to be more difficult than the rest.

Each collector’s experience will be different and they may find that over a short period of time or with a given subject that their difficulty in acquiring different backs doesn’t exactly match this list.

Ty Cobb Tobacco
This back is controversial to say the least and many collectors do not feel it is a T206 while others believe it is. Compelling arguments have been made for both sides but neither have yet to produce sufficient evidence in our opinion to definitively show it is or isn’t part of the same set. Until that time it will remain on our list as it was originally classified as a T206.

Red Cross & Coupon Type 1
We don’t believe that either of these backs are part of the T206 set and haven’t included them on the current list for that reason. However many collectors do believe they are or possibly could be T206’s so we included them in this post, unnumbered, to show where we believe they would be ranked if included.

Old Mill (SL) – Brown & Blank Back
These two backs were not inserted into packs and both are essentially printers scrap. Some may not consider these necessary for a complete back run.
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Thanks Tim and everyone else for supplying a lot of great info...keep it coming!

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[QUOTE=Abravefan11;912643]The following list is the one Jim Rivera and I are currently working from. We have discussed at great length recently moving a few of the backs up or down the list but for now they remain put.


Tim,

Just curious what you guys may be debating? The work you did on the SC Fact. 25 really opened my eyes to their difficulty. The 150 Subj. especially. Thanks again for putting that together.

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