T210-3 Orange Borders

[Leon]

I think I still have these for examples but know for sure I have the yellowish looking one. My good friend, John Esch, in Ft. Worth has a really yellow one.....The more yellow the neater they are to me.....Brian M. does know more about these than most as he does collect 'em fairly earnestly.....regards

[DixieBaseball]

Leon - I never get tired of seeing your Yellow border T210. (I need one of these for my T210 type collection, so tell your good buddy John in Fort Worth I am a super easy target should he want to trade or sale )

[mdschulze]

Sorry about the poor scan quality. My wife sent it to me and the file was too large to upload... had to make some adjustments! Also, thanks to tbob for letting me purchase this one from him awhile back... top-notch guy in my book!

BTW... this may be considered a faded red instead of a true orange... the scan color doesn't acurately show it because the scanned image is darker. Maybe tbob can help on this individual one.

ADDED: After a consultation with my wife, who has the card in hand, she agrees that it's a faded red instead of a true orange. Sorry Robert. I thought I was helping but it was a mistake on my end!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by NashvilleBaseball

Leon - I never get tired of seeing your Yellow border T210. (I need one of these for my T210 type collection, so tell your good buddy John in Fort Worth I am a super easy target should he want to trade or sale )

Hey Jeremy
I am not sure if I call it true yellow but you can easily see the difference between the other two oranges. On the other hand, John's is really yellow. I mean banana yellow. And no, unfortunately he is as passionate of a collector as we are so it's in a very good, stable, home and not going anywhere.

[rp12367]

I am just curious as to what price a T210 Orange might run in VG or EX condition. I have been wanting to pick one up for awhile. I have seen one on e-bay that Yepbg has been trying to sell for some time now. He had started at $1000 and has been working his way down $700 now. Is this way over priced or is this what one goes for?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1910-T210-Old-Mi...item3cba6334a5

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rp12367

I am just curious as to what price a T210 Orange might run in VG or EX condition. I have been wanting to pick one up for awhile. I have seen one on e-bay that Yepbg has been trying to sell for some time now. He had started at $1000 and has been working his way down $700 now. Is this way over priced or is this what one goes for?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1910-T210-Old-Mi...item3cba6334a5

I have sold and bought them in the 150-350 range....and I would expect to pay that today for a nice average grade one. I think a brighter orange, like the one above, would carry a bit more premium. In the 700-1000 range is ridiculous imho....

[rp12367]

Leon, Thanks for the info. I had assumed that it was way off base.

[rdixon1208]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hey Jeremy
I am not sure if I call it true yellow but you can easily see the difference between the other two oranges. On the other hand, John's is really yellow. I mean banana yellow. And no, unfortunately he is as passionate of a collector as we are so it's in a very good, stable, home and not going anywhere.

Leon, is your friend's card of the same subject (Thebo) as yours?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rdixon1208

Leon, is your friend's card of the same subject (Thebo) as yours?

I am not sure but can probably check. He is an old time collector. His e92's are e92's.....regardless of the backs .

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hey Jeremy
I am not sure if I call it true yellow but you can easily see the difference between the other two oranges. On the other hand, John's is really yellow. I mean banana yellow. And no, unfortunately he is as passionate of a collector as we are so it's in a very good, stable, home and not going anywhere.

Banana Yellow sounds delightful. (Would love to see this rascal...)

[DixieBaseball]

Jeremy, in your post you said that they might have corrected the problem after finishing some of the teams. That's assuming that they were printed team-by-team. Does anyone know if this is true?
It seems to me that if there are 20 known subjects that they could have all been printed together?

Hey Robert - I came to the conclusion that the T210's were printed by the team after buying a series 5 card last year of McCarthy which was miscut top to bottom and had the name of Mangum at the top of the card. (I have scans at home I can get you when I return) Mangum and McCarthy were teammates for Anderson. I am speculating a bit on this part, but perhaps horizontally each row was of 1 player such as McCarthy and then the row above it had the next player on team, etc. The answer to your question might be some of both as the sheets held a certain amount of cards vertically/horizontally, so with each team having different numbers of players, some sheets my contain say 7 players, then the next team in the series was positioned above it. Example of Anderson Series 5 : (hope this makes sense)

Series 5 Anderson:
Mangum - Mangum - Mangum - Mangum - Mangum - Mangum - Mangum -
McCarthy - McCarthy - McCarthy - McCarthy - McCarthy - McCarthy -
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Series 5 Charlotte :
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Series 5 Spartanburg:
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Series 5 Winstom Salem:
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Series 5 Greenville:
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Series 5 Greensboro:
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Series 6 Lexington:
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[rdixon1208]

I get what you're saying Jeremy, and I think I remember you saying something about that series 5 card before now that you mention it again.

But the numbers on these OB's don't indicate the same thing IMO. Brian has confirmed 6 Gordon (Waco) cards. There are 9 players on the Waco team who don't have a confirmed OB. So with that, it's hard to believe that they were printed together.

[DixieBaseball]

Robert - I understand your point as well, but I think there has to be many more of these tucked away in collections. How many from the sheets didn't make it ? (Being scrapped after printing) More time is needed, but I think you are onto something and we should continue to monitor....