barry halper forgeries

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Piedmont Sport

You are correct Richard ,,, I use them because it's public demand - and ebay demand ....... BUT ,,,,,, we are slowing moving away from those companies. And David you are so on target with your thoughts ,,,,, Halper's Stuff is all over the Place and should not be compared to coaches corner ,,,,, Thier so F'd up only a fool would purchase from them. Let's give credit to all those who are searching to do the right thing ,,,,, spend the time and effort for the good of the hobby rather then make 3rd party companies rich. ---- STAMP OUT AUCTIONS ,,, would really like to know the background of most of these people.

Ebay does not demand that you use those authenticators, you know that.
It is solely an ebay RECOMMENDATION.
But it does seem that since you are so openly critical of them and the tactics they have used to gain the niche in the market that they have, that you would stand by the words that you posted here and stop using them.
You do not need a third party COA to sell an autograph on ebay.
As I state clearly in my ebay ads, I guarantee and authenticate my own items.
State that in your ebay ads and you will not be breaking any ebay rules.

[Piedmont Sport]

At that point Richard we need to shut down all 3rd party authentication - because someone we always find another person to disagree - we as a company do offer 100% return policy and we have a form completed by our atty. that each buyer agrees to sign and notarized on the spot ,,,,, and it's insured by Marsh & Mclands - I wonder how many other dealers offer that return policy. I can't tell you how many items that are rejected and re-submitted that once failed and now passed. It's a shame ,,, this bullshit goes back many years ,,,,, and auction houses are a real source to hide bullshit. Every dealer I know struggles with all these issues ,, we need to stay in biz and the rules are PSA or JSA ,,,,,, At the National thier booths will be none stop busy.

[RichardSimon]

The autograph hobby thrived for years without 3rd party authentication.
In the good old days, you had a dealer you could trust and you asked him for an opinion on another autograph. That dealer, I did this in many instances, would gladly give his opinion to good customers.
I would gladly go back to those days in a heartbeat, even if it would cost me money.

[David Atkatz]

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