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Old 07-26-2011, 11:15 AM
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Actually Steve, three of the Beantown find Old Mills I purchased from you did exhibit light "wet sheet transfers" (or "humid card transfers". They weren't nearly as pronounced as the example Iggy used to start the thread and probably not the kind of thing you'd notice if you were going through 1000's of cards, nor is there any way of determining whether the effect was caused by how the sheets were stacked in the factory or by the cards being tightly packed in tobacco boxes (as you described), but I had simply assumed it was the latter.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:32 AM
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cool Anthony!.. I missed em all., Was the overprint the same brand of cigs?

do you still have these?.. I want to buy em back
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Water won't create a transfer after printing on anything lithographed. The inks are oil based because water is used to keep it from sticking to the plates in places it's not wanted.

Black inks can stay somewhat "wet" for well over a century, and all it takes then is pressure to make the transfer. So transfers on Old Mill, Tolstoi, and Lenox would have to be spectacular for me to believe them.

I'm thinking it's possible with red too. Exposure to either Alcohol or solvents may also help cause something like that.

The original card looks like it might be from something like that.
The Barbeau looks to me more like transfer from a ledger. The lines just don't match a SC back. And ledger inks could well be water based.

I have a very beat SC T206 I could experiment on, nobody wanted it as a trade, and I can't do much more to it than has alredy been done. I've got stuff to apply pressure, and mineral spirits and alcohol from my mechanic and woodworking hobbies. Enough interest? I may do it just to do it.
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I have a very beat SC T206 I could experiment on, nobody wanted it as a trade, and I can't do much more to it than has alredy been done. I've got stuff to apply pressure, and mineral spirits and alcohol from my mechanic and woodworking hobbies. Enough interest? I may do it just to do it.
Just do it!

You seem to have a grip on the processes. But wouldnt the solvents from the originally treated SC card cause the multi-color front (of the good card) to stain, run, adhere etc, to the treated card.

Also Steve. Along the right, white border of the Overall front. There appears to be the outer edge, border line (red?) from an adjacent SC card from the sheet? Very mysterious, this t206 business is.
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Also Steve. Along the right, white border of the Overall front. There appears to be the outer edge, border line (red?) from an adjacent SC card from the sheet? Very mysterious, this t206 business is.
That line in the right border appears to be where the edge of the card with the Sweet Cap back stopped covering the Overall when they were stacked. The border closest to the image that was covered by the other card is whiter and the outer edge that wasn't covered is more toned as it was exposed.
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I found a scan of one of the Beantown Old Mills to which I was referring.
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This image is Iggy's card with a Sweet Cap example overlaid to match the transfer. It illustrates pretty well the line Steve was referring to down the right border.

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