raw card grading in ebay listings

[bobbyw8469]

David, YOU are a joke right?!?!?!?! I didn't get to 6,000 by screwing people over.....

http://shop.ebay.com/tarheeltreasure..._from=&_ipg=25

[vintagetoppsguy]

Bobby, this isn't a joke, these are the FACTS:

• You sent in a '55 Bowman Willie Mays to PSA to be graded and it came back EOT.
• Then you tried to sell it raw on eBay without disclosing the fact that it was trimmed.
• When the buyer wanted to return it, you started threads on the PSA boards and Net54 looking for advice on accepting returns of raw cards.
• Everybody told you that you should accept the return.
• You were asked if you attempted to have it graded before you sold it and you said no.
• Then it was found out later that you did attempt to have it graded, so you lied.

Did I miss anything/leave anything out? If the events I stated above aren't true, please tell me where I have it wrong.

[bobbyw8469]

I made an honest to goodness mistake on one single solitary card. Out of 6,000 transactions, I made a mistake on ONE card!!!! You will never let me live that down, will you David?!?! You know what they say about people and glass houses, don't you buddy boy?

[perezfan]

Getting back to the original question posed in this thread...

It's an interesting question. If I bought a card described as EX+ and it arrived GD/VG, I would probably ask to return it. And I would either leave no feedback, or pehaps a neutral (based on how the seller responded). I would also describe the problem in the brief number of words Ebay gives you.

Ebay has come pretty close to rendering their feedback feature useless, and this is one of the last ways to exert some influence with regard to potential future bidders.

Anyway, I would never give glowing / positive feedback to a seller who misrepresented a card that severely (raw or otherwise).

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Ebay has come pretty close to rendering their feedback feature useless, and this is one of the last ways to exert some influence with regard to potential future bidders.

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I got my very first negative feedback a few days ago from a newbie buyer who was evidently pleased with her purchase, but still left a negative..I've tried to contact her, but she won't answer my emails...I called ebay and they said I can send her a revision form, but I can only do this once so they said I should make contact with her first to see if she made a mistake before doing so. I guess I'm just stuck with her negative even though the guy on the phone at ebay told me it does look like she mistakenly gave me the neg...ebay sucks.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...ab=AllFeedback

[perezfan]

That stinks, Dan!

I had an issue with Ebay last week, and it took me over 45 minutes just to track down a phone number for customer service (the issue was not resolvable via email). I must have clicked every "Help" "Security" and "Safe Harbor" link they have, before finally discovering the hidden path to the sunken treasure (meaning a simple phone number for customer service).

They seem to try to make it as difficult as possible to handle routine matters that would be a "piece of cake" for any other company. It's a sadistic cross between an obstacle course and a Hamster's wheel.

[slidekellyslide]

I've now figured out how to find their phone number within seconds. Click on Customer Support..then click on Contact Us...then click on Account Safety and a "Call Us" button will appear...click that and they will give you a pin number. Doesn't matter what your problem or question is the agent will just ask you how they can help you.

[alanu]

When buying raw cards from sellers I'm not familiar with I usually expect them to be at least a grade lower than stated and bid accordingly. If I'm still not happy with the card when it arrives I'll ask for a refund.

If it is a grade or two lower than stated in the auction, but I'm still satisfied I will just leave positive feedback stating something like "Quick shipping, card was a grade lower than stated in auction"

At least this way if future buyers look at the feedback they will know what to expect.

[t206hound]

Honestly I only look at the description for details of the flaws of a card, then reference the scan(s) and assume the worst. Since I generally only buy low-mid range cards, this works for me.

That said, I would opt to leave no feedback over a negative given the scenario presented in this thread.