Shuttle to scuttle. grrr

[teetwoohsix]

And honestly, does anybody give a rat's you know what if life exists on other planets or galaxies? Sure, it would be neat to know, but do we need to spend billions of dollars to find out when we could spend the money on better things? Clayton, yes our country is in a mess. So is the world. Let's fix the problems in our own world before we go searching for life in other worlds. (quote)

Well, I do (give a rats you know what) if life exists on other planets or galaxies- but that's just me. I guess I look at space exploration as science, and I'd much rather fund science than fund fake wars.

Just about everybody is pissed about what's going on Clayton. Is it really possible we will default on August 2? Normally I would say they will never let it happen, but with this gang of idiots running the asylum, who knows? (Quote)

I don't know Barry- I think we defaulted already- we are defaulting every day. There is no way in hell we could ever pay back the trillions we owe- do you see it? It is sickening that we've allowed things to get to this point. If any of us did this lousy of a job where we work (or worked) we'd have been fired a long time ago.

[barrysloate]

It's over my head Clayton- I'm too busy worrying about paying my own bills.

[Exhibitman]

The argument that there are other things more wasteful than NASA is a straw man argument; the question is not whether there is additional waste but whether the space program is a luxury that needs to be cut in supposedly lean times. If you believe that times are tough and we need to make difficult budget choices, adios Buck Rogers.

Frankly, the responses in this thread are indicative as well of the schizophrenia evident in so much of the political discourse today. Government is inefficient and wasteful and taxes need to be cut...except for the programs we like--keep your stinkin government hands off our farm subsidies, military industrial complex and space programs! I would think that if it is more efficient, leaner and cheaper, to send up our people using the Russian space infrastructure--who aren't our enemy any more, BTW--the shrink-government-lower-taxes cadres would be all over than as an example of good management. I also find it ironic that the same politicians who vociferously guard the private sector's mass outsourcing of the American economy and its manipulation of the tax codes to hold profits outside the USA to avoid corporate taxation are screaming about losing a few thousand NASA jobs. Why doesn't the same standard apply to government programs as to private sector industries? Why not outsource the spaceman delivery program and as much else as we can? Who needs local government offices when a phone bank in Mumbai can handle the calls from rubes asking where their Social Security checks are at a fraction of the cost? Because we're American, damnit, and we have the right to be illogical, inconsistent and childish!

[D. Bergin]

Big fan of the space program. I think it's one of mankind's ways of pushing the envelope, and it needs to be done with as much help as possible IMO.

Part of the growth of our civilization as a whole.

There will always be "bigger" problems.

Cutting the space program certainly won't fix the economy, poverty, political partisanship, war, famine or any of the dozens of other maladies people can think of to place on a pedestal above NASA.

Many people may think what becomes of it is useless, but they have been saying that about just about every sign of progress since the beginning of humankind.

Big picture thinking may not help "you" right now..........but it will help many 25, 50, 100, 150 years down the road that may never even realize the consequences of what we do today.

[teetwoohsix]

Some great posts here !!

My favorite show is "Ancient Aliens", it is fascinating to me. I would recommend it to anyone who may be interested in Ancient Astronaut Theory-these shows are what make me feel that space exploration is something we definately need to continue- they cover a ton of mind blowing topics. I have not seen one bad episode (if you're into this stuff).