2012 Standard Catalog For Vintage Only

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Bob Lemke

There will be NO 1981+ edition.

About time!!!

Larry

[Rich Klein]

Don't be so sure that just a pre-1981 price guide at $29.95 is a permanent answer. Suprisiingly; I would have kept the price point at $44.95 or 49.95 because I would know that my audience is less than it was before and most of the people who care about vintage should be able to afford that price point.

I have a suspeiciion that F&W will find the audience more limited than they believe and I would be concerned about the sales of this book going forward.

The good news is that for F&W the book is a known title with a long history; but a standard catalog that stops in 1980 is not complete any more

My guesstimation is that for this year --- sales will be OK but will start to dwindle in future years as the materials that can be added are reasonably small.

In addition; when Krause back in the boom days of the hobby tried a "vintage" only price guide; the sales were so bad that they never tried another copy of that book.

My guesstimation is that they will sell between 1500 and 2500 copies of that book (I hope I'm wrong for their sake).

I do not know if "we" are the target audience for such a book. If so, and if F&W is happy with that type of sales -- then the SC has a nice future. But if not; we may be looking at the swan song.

Remember when you are eliminating the modern collectior; you are eliminating the vast majority of potential buyers

Regards
Rich

[Rich Klein]

If you really belive all the post-1980 cards are worthless; I'll be happy to take any and all of them off your hands. Just ship them to me ----- you can pay for that as well

Rich

[Bob Lemke]

There's a lot of truth in what Rich said. Most copies of the Standard Catalog (10,000+) in recent years were sold to the "public" rather than within the hobby.

One of the book's major customers, Borders, is gone.

I think F+W sees what has happened to their periodicals in the sports collectibles in the past year -- Tuff Stuff gone, SCD's frequency halved -- and is offering the vintage-only SCBC as a Hail Mary pass, perhaps even as a transition from an ink-on-paper catalog to a DVD or other electronic format.

[Clutch-Hitter]

Just pre-ordered a copy. Thank you Mr Lemke

[tbob]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

Just pre-ordered a copy. Thank you Mr Lemke

As did I. Thanks Bob and ignore the whining about the book only going through 1980. Collectors of pre-war have begged for a book like this for years and now that one is available we need to support it.

[autograf]

will it include a CD/PDF version?

[DJR]

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[hangman62]

Awesome, thats what vintage collectors want
I just picked up the 2011 edition..and tore the back 3/4 of the book out and chucked it. Incredible just how many cards from 81 and up are out there...

[Jewish-collector]

Didn't someone sometime ago mention that the bulk of the sales of the previous Standard Catalog books were from collectors who tore out the vintage material portion of the book because they only purchased the book for the new info ?