Is anyone else getting sick of the constant BS in listings?

[ls7plus]

I "see" Jeff's initial, comically well-put point, but hype is and always has been part of the game, especially in all fields of collectibles. Just check out Barrett-Jackson's classic car auctions. Each of us just has to decide for ourselves just what is the sizzle and what is the steak in any given case, with no ill will intended towards Pete in this regard at all. Most of us here are pretty good at doing that. Plus we're big boys now, and we've had extensive discussions on eye appeal versus technical grade, and we pretty much agree on the importance of the former.

May those items that you pull the trigger on fill your heart with joy for years to come.

Best, guys,

Larry

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

I agree with Iggy. Almost makes me wish for Peter Chao to liven up the board again. Naaahhh.

Chao sure did "spice" up the board in the old days though.

To be completely honest, i just recently found Net54 and began lurking here, right around the same time that Peter became a member and started posting (i believe that was back sometime around the winter of 2007 or so) and he got me coming back to Net54 every few hours, just to see what he was gonna post next, lol.

[grundle20]

I do realize this is an old post, but I just had to rekindle it with this gem:

CLICK HERE TO GASP...

I mean, "breathtaking"? HAHAHA. What is this, Gone With the Wind?

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by grundle20

I do realize this is an old post, but I just had to rekindle it with this gem:

CLICK HERE TO GASP...

I mean, "breathtaking"? HAHAHA. What is this, Gone With the Wind?

There seems to be a ring of eBay sellers who have been doing this. All their cards are raw and all are "STUNNING!!!" "PERFECT CENTERING!!!!!" "BREATHTAKING!!!!!!"

[bh3443]

i know what you mean Calvindog! As for me, I try to put forward an honest description so that the buyer and myself know the real score.
Hang in there and dont let it get you down! You are a great guy and I am proud to know you from here and i enjoy our friendship. I keep saying it, but it's true: The greatest members of our hobby are the members of our 54 group!
Your Friend,
Bill Hedin

Originally Posted by calvindog

Here's a "high end" PSA 5 and the opportunity to 'steal' this card. Only problem is you can barely make out the image on the card which, to some people other than Ray Charles, might be important.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1887-N172-Old-Ju...#ht_500wt_1357

Can I make a suggestion to the sellers who can't control themselves with their obvious lies, their misleading comments about value, prior sales, etc. -- get a f%$#@g job.

[tbob]

Originally Posted by kcohen

I know this is off the subject of the OP, but once again, this card brings to light how ridiculous the grading scale is for OJs. This bugs me more than inflated descriptions. Yes, I know this issue has been raised before. I would pay more for a PSA 1 with a clear and rich image than for a seriously faded PSA 5. If that card was little more than a blank piece of cardboard, yet barely identifiable as Wright, it would have probably gotten the same grade.

+1. Agree 100% with you.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by grundle20

I do realize this is an old post, but I just had to rekindle it with this gem:

CLICK HERE TO GASP...

I mean, "breathtaking"? HAHAHA. What is this, Gone With the Wind?

That is some great centering...haha!!!

[Bicem]

Flooding ebay with 300 of these listed individually is really annoying.



LINK

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Don't forget these straight out of Net 54s BST, from a seller that knew nothing about them a week earlier.

"(A card in this shape is shocking)"

"(another relatively insane card)"

Lee

[Jaybird]

I just checked, he must have been posting them as you posted on here. He now has 1500 of them up. Wow.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Flooding ebay with 300 of these listed individually is really annoying.



LINK

It could be worse, they could all have a wheat penny in them!

[Fripples]

Of course Ray Charles couldn't see it He's blind AND dead.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

It could be worse, they could all have a wheat penny in them!

Or they could be photo's of corned beef hash..

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Fripples

Of course Ray Charles couldn't see it He's blind AND dead.

Jesus H.

[Fripples]

I was wondering if you had any cards that are actually cool? Like do you have any with guys with massive afros? I do. Do you have any with players with a floating eyeball? I do. I just scored a Dick Williams card that has such sharp edges that you could slice a pepperoni log so thin that you could read the paper through it. Think my collection tops yours. WIN for Fripples.

[barrysloate]

What are you talking about Fripples?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

What are you talking about Fripples?

I just had a very nice chat with Fripples. Fripples is a very educated adult that enjoys the hobby and especially the artwork on our gems. As a matter of fact, with a PHD in Middle Eastern studies (she'll kill me for letting that out), I told Fripples she might have some interests in common with Jim B. And of course Fripples has Lichtman to blame for enjoying the hobby. Isn't he always at fault ? Fripples seems like a blast of person.....very upbeat!!

I thought that post above was a bit odd too....but it's all in fun.

[4815162342]

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[barrysloate]

I found Fripples posts to be a bit odd, both of them. Glad to see they were tongue in cheek. Tone is always tough to pick up on the board. I just thought that Fripples took some of that bad acid that's going around.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

I just had a very nice chat with Fripples. Fripples is a very educated adult that enjoys the hobby and especially the artwork on our gems. As a matter of fact, with a PHD in Middle Eastern studies (she'll kill me for letting that out), I told Fripples she might have some interests in common with Jim B. And of course Fripples has Lichtman to blame for enjoying the hobby. Isn't he always at fault ? Fripples seems like a blast of person.....very upbeat!!

I thought that post above was a bit odd too....but it's all in fun.

Errrm I suspect if you put Fripples and Jim B in the same room only one will get out alive -- and it wouldn't be Jim B.

[barrysloate]

I believe Leon confused the East with the Middle East.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I believe Leon confused the East with the Middle East.

I think I got my wires crossed....You and Jeff are probably correct. I better go back into my hole again. Fripples seems very cool though.....and Jim B. is one of my favorite people in the hobby.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think I got my wires crossed....You and Jeff are probably correct. I better go back into my hole again. Fripples seems very cool though.....and Jim B. is one of my favorite people in the hobby.

All the makings of an international incident.

[iggyman]

The stuff that is learned on this forum is just amazing. I've lived my entire life up to now and had virtually no idea that the word "fripples" even existed. The fact that fripples is always plural, well.....that just boggles my mind.

Lovely Day...

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I believe Leon confused the East with the Middle East.

LOLOLOLOLOL yes, exactly. This is what happens when you let a guy from Texas be in charge. One minor error over a few letters and we have WWIII.

[Exhibitman]

Not to defend the people at Please Submit Again or Slippery Gasket Creators but I always wonder whether a card with a very faint image is as bad as it is when we see it because of the wear and tear of being exposed to light in dealer(s) inventory after being slabbed.

[oldjudge]

Almost surely no in the case of Old Judges. There is a decline curve for photo fading and most of it takes place fairly early in the photo's life (about 100 years ago). Unless the dealer's case is at an outside mall this is not an issue.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I always wonder whether a card with a very faint image is as bad as it is when we see it because of the wear and tear of being exposed to light in dealer(s) inventory after being slabbed.

Probably not when they have had it less than 24 hours before putting it for sale...

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

Probably not when they have had it less than 24 hours before putting it for sale...

But only after publicly announcing it as their favorite card in their collection, one which they will never sell. At least for an hour.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

LOLOLOLOLOL yes, exactly. This is what happens when you let a guy from Texas be in charge. One minor error over a few letters and we have WWIII.

Yes, my community college education is showing through again......"strategery".......

[E93]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Errrm I suspect if you put Fripples and Jim B in the same room only one will get out alive -- and it wouldn't be Jim B.

Hey, how did I get dragged into this?
JimB

[Leon]

Originally Posted by E93

Hey, how did I get dragged into this?
JimB

osmosis

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Leon

osmosis

That's a big word for a community college.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

That's a big word for a community college.

I graduated in the top 80%

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Leon

I graduated in the top 80%

Then, you got me beat! You made me laugh.

[oldjudge]

Opening day of Introductory Biology at Plano J C

Professor: Osmosis
Leon: OsLeon

[Fripples]

Thanks Leon Lovely chatting with you earlier. I'd keep an eye on that Lichtman fellow if I were you I admire his collection, but I intend to have the most bizarre and unique one. He may end up being a bit jealous in the end.

P.S., thank you for agreeing with me, that I do NOT sound like I am 12 years old.