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Old 07-14-2011, 12:18 PM
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My 30-something dentist said he had a $750,000 student load debt when he graduated. But, don't worry, last time I saw him he had it down to $500,000.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:41 PM
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Jeter signed 1000 items in 90 minutes? Man, he's a fast puppy...
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Foolish people worship the wrong things.

There is only one person that truly should be worshipped, and he will be back sometime to prove it.
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That does "Sum it all up."
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Damn straight. ELVIS, Where are you!
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He said one person.
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What a "classy" guy. Must be hard to be so ascetic.
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I'm new here, but I'm sure I saw a rule about no "fairytale nonsense" sort of posts. Or politics.
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:11 PM
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Jeter is a wealthy man. He does not need to be peddling over-priced Steiner crap. It is crap because all of Steiner's memorabilia is grossly over-priced and the man will do anything for a dollar. Just because people in the hobby will pay for some of the items he peddles, doesn't mean he should be producing them. Everyone has ethics. I cannot imagine dealing with him. Every year I go to Spring Training and I listen to Jeter and other stars on the Yankees talk about how much they can't stand the dealers, who are "dirtbags" desperate for autographs so they can sell them. Ten minutes later Jeter's in the clubhouse signing baseballs for Steiner. But that's different because HE gets paid.

If this was truly a special moment for Jeter and the culmination of his career, why was his first priority to sign baseballs for Steiner? If Jeter was a nice guy, he wouldn't have a deal with Steiner to begin with. And he wouldn't be taking baseballs from the hands of children and signing the side panel because he "can't" sign the sweetspot. A classy guy would have told the man who caught the ball to keep it like Roger Maris did.

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My view is that there is $X available in the market for Jeter stuff. I do not think Jeter should apologize for taking a major percentage of that. If people want to pay $50 for a DJ3K Hat, like I did at the game last Saturday, that's their prerogative. Steiner is a mechanism for making sure athletes get the biggest share of the market value of their items. When Jeter signs for free -- and in my life, he has done that for me about a half dozen times at Yankee Stadium and spring training -- he gets nothing for it. That is called leakage.

What you are essentially saying is that you want free things, and that the truly rich should accept more leakage. It is that component of this argument that I find extremely hypocritical, particularly among a group of people on a baseball memorabilia board.

By the way, paid $250 for a Jeter 3000 ticket stub today on eBay (t-206collector). It has his image, unlike my two which have Arod. The person who profited was a ticket speculator. Jeter got nada from that sale. Just something to think about.
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Jeter gets to play baseball for a living. He is only able to do that because people will come out to the games. So yes, I do expect that a player can write his name for me in exchange for the millions of dollars he gets, which he will receive whether or not he is even playing (see Albert Belle). And I do feel as though I am entitled to free autographs. Do you disagree? Steiner is charging $599 for a Derek Jeter autographed baseball. My question is: why? And how can you justify this pricetag to a child? I don't think you can explain "leakage" to a 10 year old.

I'm having trouble following your argument. You think Derek should profit from eBay sales too? And every signature he ever signs? Why? And how exactly does a player get nothing for signing an autograph? Lifelong admiration, a job playing big league baseball, the support of an entire city; maybe players should pay to play. What am I getting out of the deal?

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My view is that there is $X available in the market for Jeter stuff. I do not think Jeter should apologize for taking a major percentage of that. If people want to pay $50 for a DJ3K Hat, like I did at the game last Saturday, that's their prerogative. Steiner is a mechanism for making sure athletes get the biggest share of the market value of their items. When Jeter signs for free -- and in my life, he has done that for me about a half dozen times at Yankee Stadium and spring training -- he gets nothing for it. That is called leakage.

What you are essentially saying is that you want free things, and that the truly rich should accept more leakage. It is that component of this argument that I find extremely hypocritical, particularly among a group of people on a baseball memorabilia board.

By the way, paid $250 for a Jeter 3000 ticket stub today on eBay (t-206collector). It has his image, unlike my two which have Arod. The person who profited was a ticket speculator. Jeter got nada from that sale. Just something to think about.
Leakage!? Are you nuts?

Amazing. Every single Babe Ruth-signed ball, photo, scrap of paper, etc.--and there are hundreds of thousands of 'em--every damn one, is leakage. The man did nothing but leak.

If $20 million/year + endorsements aren't enough for a guy to sign every damn autograph he's stopped for in the street, than f%#k him.
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