Casey Anthony trial- Not guilty

Brendan · #1 07-08-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

"Caylee's Law" would make it a felony for parents or caregivers to not report the death of a child to authorities - accidental or otherwise - within one hour.

I'm not sure how that's trying to exploit the situation. That's a good thing whether he's trying to get re-elected or not.

It seems like this "Caylee's Law" is just a bunch of crap from people who are too ignorant to understand that without solid proof she cannot be convicted. And too ignorant to see that in some cases "Caylee's Law" cannot be enforced.

It amazes me why people are so angry about the verdict. I hate a little kid dying just as much as anyone, but why would I want that to happen to another person as well?

vintagetoppsguy · #2 07-08-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

It seems like this "Caylee's Law" is just a bunch of crap from people who are too ignorant to understand that without solid proof she cannot be convicted. And too ignorant to see that in some cases "Caylee's Law" cannot be enforced.

It amazes me why people are so angry about the verdict. I hate a little kid dying just as much as anyone, but why would I want that to happen to another person as well?

What's so ignorant about a law that would require a parent/caregiver to report a missing child within 48 hours, or a dead child within 2 hours? I think you're missing the point of the law. It's not to punish good people, it's to prevent cover ups. Again, whether you believe Caylee's death was a homicide or some tragic accident, it was definitely covered up. Caylee's Law is gaining a lot of momentum and will be passed whether you think it is ignorant or not. I suppose you also think Jessica's Law (another Florida law) is ignorant too?

Leon · #3 07-08-2011, 09:37 PM

Brendan, it's only fair, and is in the rules, that if you want to argue you will have to put your full name in your sig line...nothing personal...thanks

Brendan · #4 07-08-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

What's so ignorant about a law that would require a parent/caregiver to report a missing child within 48 hours, or a dead child within 2 hours? I think you're missing the point of the law. It's not to punish good people, it's to prevent cover ups. Again, whether you believe Caylee's death was a homicide or some tragic accident, it was definitely covered up. Caylee's Law is gaining a lot of momentum and will be passed whether you think it is ignorant or not. I suppose you also think Jessica's Law (another Florida law) is ignorant too?

Isn't it 1 hour and 24 hours?

I never said that it was to punish good people.

My whole view on this is that there are already laws preventing cover ups. A stricter law is not needed.

I'd rather just keep my full name off the forum, so I won't be continuing this argument.

vintagetoppsguy · #5 07-08-2011, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

Isn't it 1 hour and 24 hours?

I never said that it was to punish good people.

My whole view on this is that there are already laws preventing cover ups. Another law is not needed.

I'd rather just keep my full name off the forum, so I won't be continuing this argument.

Everything is just proposed legislation at this point. I've heard 1 hour and 24 hours, but I've also heard 2 hours and 48 hours. It would also depend on the child's age. Sure, there are details to work out. Another part of the proposal would make it so that no parent (or family member) of a missing or murdered child can profit in any form - no tv interviews, movie deals, book deals, etc. - but I guess that part is ignorant too, huh?

Brendan · #6 07-08-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Everything is just proposed legislation at this point. I've heard 1 hour and 24 hours, but I've also heard 2 hours and 48 hours. It would also depend on the child's age. Sure, there are details to work out. Another part of the proposal would make it so that no parent (or family member) of a missing or murdered child can profit in any form - no tv interviews, movie deals, book deals, etc. - but I guess that part is ignorant too, huh?

Please refer back to my original post. I didn't say the law was ignorant. Who knows, maybe the law will be passed. With just about anything, there will be people that agree and people who disagree. Nothing wrong with that.

tiger8mush · #7 07-09-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Another part of the proposal would make it so that no parent (or family member) of a missing or murdered child can profit in any form - no tv interviews, movie deals, book deals, etc. - but I guess that part is ignorant too, huh?

What if a missing/murdered child came from a poor family and had a sibling and because of the book deal the sibling was able to go to college or something?

I agree, I don't want to see the Caylee's mother profit. But non-fictional tragedies are often written about and profited from; and sometimes the profit is put to good use. While the other part of the proposal is well-intended, I'm just not sure how the law would be written to state what is good vs bad use of profit.

Rob

vintagetoppsguy · #8 07-09-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger8mush

What if the child died at night after being put to bed and wasn't discovered till the next day?

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Originally Posted by tiger8mush

What if the parent/caregiver said she went in to check on the kid in the middle of night and thought the kid was sleeping even though it was determined the child died several hours before?

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Originally Posted by tiger8mush

What if a missing/murdered child came from a poor family and had a sibling and because of the book deal the sibling was able to go to college or something?

Rob,

This is your third �What if�� example regarding this law. We can �What if�� any law till we�re blue in the face. The bottom line is, the law is intended to protect children that are victims of neglect, abuse or death by a family member or caregiver, and to keep family members or caregivers from profiting from it. If you dislike or don�t agree with laws that are intended to protect children, so be it. I really don�t know why you continue to push it with �What ifs..�

tiger8mush · #9 07-09-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Rob,

This is your third �What if�� example regarding this law. We can �What if�� any law till we�re blue in the face. The bottom line is, the law is intended to protect children that are victims of neglect, abuse or death by a family member or caregiver, and to keep family members or caregivers from profiting from it. If you dislike or don�t agree with laws that are intended to protect children, so be it. I really don�t know why you continue to push it with �What ifs..�

Just because a law is created for a reason 1) doesn't mean it will actually stop something from happening (like protecting the kid) and 2) doesn't mean it won't be used against someone for another reason.

creating more laws isn't always the answer is all i'm saying

vintagetoppsguy · #10 07-08-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

Please refer back to my original post. I didn't say the law was ignorant.

You're right. My mistake. You said it was a "bunch of crap." So, let me rephrase my question. Is a law that is intended to protect children by requiring that their parent / caregiver notify the authorities of a child�s death or disappearance in a timely manner really a bunch of crap? Is a law that prohibits a parent or family member from profiting from their child�s death really a bunch of crap?

Brendan · #11 07-08-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

You're right. My mistake. You said it was a "bunch of crap." So, let me rephrase my question. Is a law that is intended to protect children by requiring that their parent / caregiver notify the authorities of a child’s death or disappearance in a timely manner really a bunch of crap? Is a law that prohibits a parent or family member from profiting from their child’s death really a bunch of crap?

Nice

Maybe I spend too much time reading comments on Yahoo News. That's the first place I heard about it, so it was only natural.

Whatever, I said I wouldn't argue. At least in my opinion, the law has been propelled by people who do not agree with the verdict. My point is that there are already laws for this. They may not be as to the point or as strict, but they are laws. So if I disagree with the law, the only possible opinion I can have is it's a "bunch of crap" from people who are....

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Originally Posted by Brendan

It seems like this "Caylee's Law" is just a bunch of crap from people who are too ignorant to understand that without solid proof she cannot be convicted. And too ignorant to see that in some cases "Caylee's Law" cannot be enforced.

We're entitled to our opinions. I may think it's a "bunch of crap" and you may agree with it. Is this a problem?

If it is a problem, then you win the argument, okay? I said I'd stop so that's what I will do.

vintagetoppsguy · #12 07-08-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

My point is that there are already laws for this.

Ummm, no there isn't. Current Florida law makes it a misdemeanor for failing to report a child’s death. The proposed law would change it from a misdemeanor to a felony. However, there is no law against not reporting a missing child. This new law would change that. Still not sure how that's a "bunch of crap."

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Originally Posted by Brendan

We're entitled to our opinions.

Yes, we're all entitled to our own opinions, but you don't seem to really know much about the things you are commenting on.

Edited to add: You still didn't answer my question. Is a law that prohibits a parent or family member from profiting from their child’s death really a bunch of crap?

Brendan · #13 07-09-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Ummm, no there isn't. Current Florida law makes it a misdemeanor for failing to report a child�s death. The proposed law would change it from a misdemeanor to a felony. However, there is no law against not reporting a missing child. This new law would change that. Still not sure how that's a "bunch of crap."

Yes, we're all entitled to our own opinions, but you don't seem to really know much about the things you are commenting on.

Edited to add: You still didn't answer my question. Is a law that prohibits a parent or family member from profiting from their child�s death really a bunch of crap?

I don't believe it should be a felony. I don't believe someone should have to report a missing child. I don't believe I have no clue what I'm talking about. Yes, I believe that is really a "bunch of crap."

I have added "I/I don't believe to everything I just said, as everything we are discussing are opinions.

But, as I said, I would stop arguing, so you win the argument. Happy? Good.

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