ID Help Please - Phildelphia PCs

[VintageBall]

Just realized the second card is likely 1913 or 1914 spring training, since Earl Moore played 1912 and some 1913 games with the Phillies. Also, they are wearing dark caps which first were used in 1913 according to the HOF uniform database.

So the card likely is 1913 or Spring Training 1914

For what it's worth...

[Wite3]

First card I have seen before but cannot remember where...I can tell you that it is a mixed team made up of mostly Phillies but I am pretty sure there is an A's player reclining (pinstripe cap), a Brooklyn sweater seems to be standing in the back, and near that, a player uniform and cap i can't make out. All that being said, I think seated next to Lobert is Thomas. I think above Dooin might be Sherry Magee.I also think Fred Luderus is next to Knabe...all of these are educated guesses on my part (taken from cards, photos, the phillies encyclopedia, etc.)...check the sporting news composites from those years as well...might help...

Joshua

[VintageBall]

Josh,

Thanks for checking!

I think you may have seen another example of the top postcard in Legendary Auctions' November 2010 auction. They had one in Lot 400, which featured 3 Phillies postcards.

Here's the photo from the Legendary site:



To me it looks like the top card that I posted in my original thread is from Spring Training. Different players wearing different uniforms from other teams may have been present either because they were training in the same place (for instance many teams trained in Hot Springs), or because a few new players joined a team and were wearing their old uniforms or sweaters.

By the way, isn't that a Boston Doves uniform not a Brooklyn Dodgers uniform?

You may be right on Luderus and Magee -- I will compare several photos to see.

Thanks again, Josh.

Robert S