Simple Poll: PSA 5 w/ Crease -- Disclose?

barrysloate · #1 06-28-2011, 01:32 PM

Is it possible that this was a crease that was once spooned out, and over time came back? It seems a little too severe, but it's a thought.

But when a card is this overgraded, full disclosure is a must.

Leon · #2 06-28-2011, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Is it possible that this was a crease that was once spooned out, and over time came back? It seems a little too severe, but it's a thought.

But when a card is this overgraded, full disclosure is a must.

I don't think the crease came back. In my experience (and I have never done it but have seen some instances) when someone has spooned a card, to try to eliminate a crease, it made a shiny place where it was done. I have one or two cards where it was done and it is distinctive. That isn't to say it always happens, as I don't know, but that is my experience.

barrysloate · #3 06-28-2011, 01:40 PM

Hi Leon- spooning will cause a shiny spot, but I have heard stories (maybe they aren't true) of creases coming back some time after they were spooned out.

Leon · #4 06-28-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate

Hi Leon- spooning will cause a shiny spot, but I have heard stories (maybe they aren't true) of creases coming back some time after they were spooned out.

Exactly and that shiny spot would still be there, regardless. That was my point as I didn't see any instance of that from the large scan. I think it just got missed....Graders are human, and while it shouldn't happen, it does and will continue.

T206Collector · #5 06-28-2011, 02:43 PM

Spooning is to crease removal as scissors are to trimming.

Really good crease removal is done without a spoon and does not leave a shiny spot; same as really good trimming is not done with common household scissors.

Whether a crease can return is anyone's guess, but I don't think so. The more logical explanation is that PSA missed the wrinkle.

mrvster · #6 06-28-2011, 03:01 PM

Hey everyone

absolutely disclose

....the cooler we are as collectors to each other, to treat each other with respect, and be honest about our cards(we can't take 'em with us), the better the hobby will become..

I want my son one day(waiting still to have one thats why i am able to buy a few cards LOL

) to enjoy my passion like i have since i was a child......this hobby needs to be weeded out of fraud.....i believe reputation is everything!!we all make mistakes, and if some collectors would actually admit when they did something wrong, or just shady behavoir, i'm sure other collectors would accecpt them back...noone is perfect.....some of these collectors who have tarnished their rep should come forward and say, "hey guys, i was a dxck, i screwed up and ect ect, please give me another chance."....admit when they did something stupid, and move on...sure we can forgive and maybe not forget, but everyone imo deserves a second chance...(must be the Libra in me

)

IMO- i would not even really touch a card at all, the way it came, is the way it would come/go....

if a card is labeled wrong, or missed graded, or a wrinkle is spotted and not disclosed, and the seller is aware of it, it's just shady to me....

thanks for listening to me spew, this is something i feel pretty strong about..

BTW- i would like to thank all of you fellow collectors who i consider friends for making my hobby as enjoyable as it is to me, for helping with my collecting...and for meeting some great friends and awesome people

Peace

Johnny V

bobbyw8469 · #7 06-28-2011, 03:20 PM

This is one that I recently won from Heritage auctions. I can't believe I missed it. If you were me, would you be happy with this card????

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