Hey Big Spender

[barrysloate]

Bruce- it's not difficult to determine the total amount of money spent at any given auction, that information is public. But if auction house XYZ sells $1 million worth of cards in their spring sale, how do you know if 100, 200, 300 or more bidders won lots? And how do you know who spent 100K and who bought one $300 card? I know you can extrapolate some information, but I can't imagine it's all that accurate. It's reasonable speculation at best.

[SethY]

See this behavior is why you are still single and have no children

I am quite proud of what I am at this point in my life and some bald flabby old dude like you won't really change my mind. My choice on where to attend college was the right one. I chose it over another top university in Washington University in St. Louis because I knew I could succeed whilst having a life at the same time. Sure, you succeeded, but you have no life, no children. Just you and your cardboard.

You sir still have no mark on history. You will be in no encyclopedia, not even wikipedia (unless you or someone you pay sets it up), and will not be featured by any sort of prominent group/organization to be remembered.

Since I am not a materialistic jackass, I don't care where my collection goes. I collect for fun and to buy things I think are cool, not to prove I am better than everyone else.

Seth

Since you managed to get into college, and hope to earn a degree in business, you should get your facts straight before making stupid comments.

Of course, if you choose not to get the facts straight before you speak, you may have a great career as a Mass. Democratic congressmen.

On another note, it appears that it is you who has the ego problem. When and if we die(knew you'd love that) we don't care what happens. In the interim, whilst we are very much alive, we are far and away the happiest, and for that matter, most secure person we know.

As the old 1960's song said, come back when you grow up girl, you're still living in a paper doll world. In the interest of the Board, we should terminate this discussion, but do feel free to write to us directly.

Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List
bdorskind@dorskindgroup.com

[Kawika]

[Ejm1]

Well folks it's been fun but I must go put my authentic 1927 Yankee stadium mens room toilet paper to use.

[scgaynor]

As somebody who has been behind the scenes at a number of high end auctions I can tell you that Bruce's numbers are high, especially in the current market. A number of the big spenders from a few years ago are no longer active.

There are maybe a handful of people who spend $1 million a year. While they might spend a million dollars a year, they are selling alot as well to finance that buying habit or are dealers who are selling for more money than they are spending. They are not dumping a million a year into the hobby and sitting on the stuff.

The typical big catalog auction mailing list is probably about 5,000. There are probably about 500 active bidders in an auction and 100-200 winners. Those numbers would probably be an average.

That $100 million in sales is actually about $50-$60 million. Many "sales" are not really "sales" at all.

I would revise Bruce's numbers to read

"There are about 200 people who spend at least $10,000 a year (in high value items) 100 who spend $50,000 a year or more and 30-40 folks who spend $100,000 a year or more. To the best our knowledge there are 5 dealers/collectors who spend in excess of a million dollars a year."

[Shoeless Moe]

Scott, "I" for one would like to say, "we" thank you.

[mark evans]

I think the answer to Bruce's initial inquiry turns on whether the population of wealthy collectors will increase, decrease or remain constant during the period in which he continues to collect. I don't know the answer. But based upon Scott's statement that current figures show a downward trend, my concern would be a continuation of that trend due to adverse economic conditions and aging baby boomers. Even assuming such a continuing trend, though, I suspect that true rarities would be more likely to retain their value (or perhaps even increase in value) than more common pre-war cards and memorabilia.

[SethY]

Originally Posted by scgaynor

As somebody who has been behind the scenes at a number of high end auctions I can tell you that Bruce's numbers are high, especially in the current market. A number of the big spenders from a few years ago are no longer active.

There are maybe a handful of people who spend $1 million a year. While they might spend a million dollars a year, they are selling alot as well to finance that buying habit or are dealers who are selling for more money than they are spending. They are not dumping a million a year into the hobby and sitting on the stuff.

The typical big catalog auction mailing list is probably about 5,000. There are probably about 500 active bidders in an auction and 100-200 winners. Those numbers would probably be an average.

That $100 million in sales is actually about $50-$60 million. Many "sales" are not really "sales" at all.

I would revise Bruce's numbers to read

"There are about 200 people who spend at least $10,000 a year (in high value items) 100 who spend $50,000 a year or more and 30-40 folks who spend $100,000 a year or more. To the best our knowledge there are 5 dealers/collectors who spend in excess of a million dollars a year."

And Brucii just told me to get my facts straight. Thanks for the info man!

Bruce, the CURRENT Boston College basketball coach took your Ivy league team to the ELITE EIGHT.

Get your facts straight

With deep regards for your personal health and well being,

A republican.

We were referencing the former Boston College Coach, Chuck Daly
who later coached the Pistons. He coached Penn after Boston College.

We also disagree with Scott Gaynor- the number of different bidders in the REA Auctions who spend over $50,000 is quite high.


As for the items not sold, that is something that may be true- we were only referencing what the auction houses state. If you look at the top 12 auction houses they average well over 90% on items valued at $2000 or more.

Thanks for your good health wishes, Seth.

Bruce

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51

Whilst we are very much alive, we are far and away the happiest, and for that matter, most secure person we know.

Putting aside that they admit they are a person (singular), can someone who is considing the insecurity of the people he knows be, at the same time, the most secure person he knows? I think this could only be true if the only person he knows was himself, which means he is also the most insecure person he knows.

I wrote a lot more about how much I dislike his posts, but I erased it because what's the point.....?

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by SethY

Sure, you succeeded, but you have no life, no children. Just you and your cardboard.

Succeeded? We only have Bruce's word for that. Try Googling him. Basically, you'll find nothing. Not much evidence of any kind of "success."