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Old 06-17-2011, 08:11 PM
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Sellers can only leave positives, but sometimes they leave "false negatives." For example,

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Message says: ***** Neg: BUYER SCAMMED ME OF MY CARD WITH FAKE CLAIM!!! DIRTBAG LIAR! SELLERS BEWARE!!!!!****
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Old 06-17-2011, 09:37 PM
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While reporting the seller to eBay you should also report him to your Police Department, his Police Department and the US Postal Inspector.


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Old 06-17-2011, 10:08 PM
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Default I do have him reported to my police dept

I had to open an incident report with my police department earlier in the week and met with detectives yesterday to go over all the details and they have his name and address from the package....thats to say he used his actual address. The only problem was that the detectives were pretty negative about recovering money from scammers on eBay and said its pretty hard to get your money back in most cases.



I am hoping that eBay will come through for me and not allow this jerk to take my money and send nothing.

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Old 06-18-2011, 05:04 AM
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He responded to your negative by saying that you are the one trying to get over on Ebay. However, you can leave a "follow-up" feedback below his that will give you the last word if you so choose....
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:55 AM
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Default Red flags all over.

Red Flag 1:
I'm selling bits and pieces of my grandfathers baseball card collection. This collection ranges from the early 20's to the mid 60's. most of the cards in the collection are in really great shape for as old as they are.

9 out of 10 times when a seller says that he is selling his gradfathers baseball cards that was found in the attic are a scam

Red Flag 2:
And for all you doubters that are going to tell me this card is probably a reprint....... I've taken this card to a very knowledgable card dealer in my area and he told me he's almost 100% sure it's real and he has already made me a very generous cash offer for the card.

He went out of his way to make sure that the buyer doesn't have any doubt that the card is a reprint. When I looked at it that was the first thing I thought. The whole story with it being found in a old 1951 newspaper doesn't help his case either.

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a 55 topps mantle card, a 54 bowman ted williams, and a few other less famous players. FEEL FREE TO MESSAGE ME WITH OFFERS AS WELL. I"M OPEN TO SERIOUS OFFERS

There is no such thing as a 1955 Topps Mantle card. The seller could mean a 1955 Bowman Mantle but someone who is selling such a high priced Paige should know the difference. He knows enough about the hobby to know that the Paige is a rare card.

Delivery confirmation and insurance will be included, and card will be packed EXTREMELY carefully!

Did you sign for the card when you got it? This could be used by the seller to claim that the card was delivered to you and after you opened it you claimed the package was empty.

Ebay might side with the seller on this one. Best of luck in your case
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:56 AM
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I had to open an incident report with my police department earlier in the week and met with detectives yesterday to go over all the details and they have his name and address from the package....thats to say he used his actual address. The only problem was that the detectives were pretty negative about recovering money from scammers on eBay and said its pretty hard to get your money back in most cases.



I am hoping that eBay will come through for me and not allow this jerk to take my money and send nothing.
be careful here. i believe you stated earlier he had a tracking #. ebay may say as long as a tracking # was provided he sent the item even if the package was empty.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:20 AM
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Default Maybe eBay will allow me to send it back:)

I will be glad to send eBay a tracking number as well and let them know I sent the package back to him.
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:36 PM
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Yesterday morning I emailed this seller about one of his other items - a Duke Snider autographed baseball - and asked him if he would accept a check as form of payment. I was hoping he would say yes and I would then click the BIN and ask him for his address. Then I had planned to PM the OP and give him the name and address to see if it matched what the OP had.

Anyway, he didn't respond to my email. This morning I went ahead and clicked the BIN anyway. Shortly thereafter, I received the following message from the seller:

"hahahah i just realized who you are. How about you DON"T buy my stuff when all you're trying to do is to get information for that guy that claims i scammed him out of a card he purchased. in fact let me help you out. somehow hes saying that he doesn't have access to my info which is total BS, but here you go.

Mike Babski
304 wall st.
hummelstown pa 17036.

He or anyone else that wants to assume stuff is MORE than welcome to hit me up as i have all kinds of documentation that his card was shipped and arrived just as it should have. and just FYI if you're not going to pay for the ball then i'll be sure to take the appropriate measures and have ur account suspended for lack of payment. thanks!


OH and as for the snap on wrenches. you can look them up on the snap on web site. 'm selling 2 (two) wrenches that sell for upwards of $70 EACH that's how "a wrench sells for $110) b/c there's 2 not one. read the add again"


If he knew who I was, then that means he is reading this thread. My guess is that he is/was a board member (or maybe a friend of a board member) at one time and that's also how he stole Ted's scan. After his email I requested his contact information through eBay and it matched the contact information in his email.

Tomorrow morning I will mail the seller an envelope with cash to pay for my purchase. I will send it with delivery confirmation to prove it was received (just as he mailed the OP's package). I sure hope he doesn't take my cash and not mail the ball. After all, I would have delivery confirmation that the payment was sent and that might warrant me leaving him negative feedback.

If anybody has an eBay account they're willing to sacrifice, I encourage them to do the same thing. Time to get this POS off eBay...and behind bars.
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:03 PM
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Guess he didn't like my crack about his wrenches. LOL!!!
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:04 PM
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be careful here. i believe you stated earlier he had a tracking #. ebay may say as long as a tracking # was provided he sent the item even if the package was empty.

A tracking number means nothing to ebay. Proof of delivery via a delivery confirmation means nothing to ebay. Ebay has become incredibly slanted toward the buyers now and honest and reliable sellers bear the brunt of this policy. It all began with that woman whose policy wrecked ebay while she was in charge, I forget her name but didn't she run for governor of California (and lost thank God).? Whitman?
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:26 PM
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eBay will almost always go for the buyer if you do it right. Did you send the package back with signature confirmation? eBay says that's needed with items over $250. Then again, he could always just not sign it.
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:33 PM
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Default I am still waiting for eBay

eBay said they will contact me on Tuesday and let me know what to do next. Surely they wont have me ship an empty box back to him.
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:58 PM
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Sellers can only leave positives, but sometimes they leave "false negatives." For example,

Positive Feedback
Message says: ***** Neg: BUYER SCAMMED ME OF MY CARD WITH FAKE CLAIM!!! DIRTBAG LIAR! SELLERS BEWARE!!!!!****
If a seller leaves a positive like this, you can get Ebay to remove it. It violates the TOS to leave false positives.

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Old 06-22-2011, 08:18 PM
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Default Got resoution with eBay

EBay contacted me and decided in my favor. After a couple of stressful weeks I finally have closure and Ebay is refunding my money. Logic does prevail and I just wanted to let everyone know the system does work for the most part and I truly wanted to say THANK YOU to everyone who sent me messages with advice and I really wanted to say THANK YOU to Ted who took time to speak to Ebay on my behalf.


Thanks so much Ted for taking time out of your day to help me out.


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Old 06-22-2011, 08:20 PM
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Awesome news. Congrats.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:35 PM
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Congrats, Garet. I hope this scammer also faces legal action.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:40 PM
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Good news...and way to go Ted for helping out a fellow Net54er.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:08 PM
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Congrats, Chalk one up for the good guys!
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