Black Sox pickups

[btcarfagno]

My new Joe Jackson decal bat. A big one too...35 inches. Looks like the label is about 60% intact.




Tom C

[Shoeless Moe]

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[mr2686]

Just picked up a Joe Benz which at one time was pasted in to a scrapbook.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Just picked up a Joe Benz which at one time was pasted in to a scrapbook.

Hi Mike,
That's a nice looking Benz and no doubt that is authentic.
Did you know that Joe Benz threw a no-hitter in 1914?
I'm thinking that that was signed in the late 1940's or early 1950's. Do you have any clue when it was signed based on other items in the scrapbook?
Cool!

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Benz ended up becoming a cemetery caretaker in his later years. Oddly, his teammates tended to keep track of him. I've seen a few handwritten responses from players to pioneering collectors who inquired about Benz' whereabouts (among other players). Invariably, the player would respond with "Works at cemetery, Chicago, Ill.". Might Benz have possessed more prowess than his stats would indicate, or did the Sporting News just run a "Where Are They Now?" column on him one too many times?

[mr2686]

Of course everyone knew where Joe Benz was...they were all dying to get in to his place of work! (rim shot)...thank you, I'll be here all week...try the fish!
Scott, no I didn't know that he threw a no hitter. I just looked it up and saw that it was actually the first White Sox no hitter that allowed a run (not sure how many in mlb where that has happend). Also realized that the 1919 team had 3 pitchers to either have thrown or that would throw a no hitter (Benz, Cicotte and Robertson and all three were caught by Ray Schalk)...pretty cool! Also, I did not actually see the scrapbook, just know that it was pasted into one, but your date range guess sounds about right based on strength of signature.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Of course everyone knew where Joe Benz was...they were all dying to get in to his place of work! (rim shot)...thank you, I'll be here all week...try the fish!
Scott, no I didn't know that he threw a no hitter. I just looked it up and saw that it was actually the first White Sox no hitter that allowed a run (not sure how many in mlb where that has happend). Also realized that the 1919 team had 3 pitchers to either have thrown or that would throw a no hitter (Benz, Cicotte and Robertson and all three were caught by Ray Schalk)...pretty cool! Also, I did not actually see the scrapbook, just know that it was pasted into one, but your date range guess sounds about right based on strength of signature.

Hi Mike,

I believe that there have been 21 nine inning no-hitters pitched since 1893 (when the pitching mound moved to the 60' 6" modern standard) where at least one run was allowed.

Additionally, there have been 3 eight inning unofficial no-hitters thrown that allowed have allowed at least one run.

I hope that helps!

[Dave Grob]

This all just came together recently..


Dave Grob
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