Black Sox Collecting

bobbvc · #1 05-28-2011, 10:19 AM

Some time between 1911-1919. Mineral Wells, Tex. Anyone recognize the player?

Bicem · #2 05-28-2011, 11:16 AM

pretty neat, I camp in Mineral Wells.

novakjr · #3 05-28-2011, 11:18 AM

Aside from everything else, these men have also been brought even further to the forefront because of the movie. Background and everything else considered, a movie can add even more to the charm of a collectible or card. Take James Braddock as an example, yes, his story was nice, and yes, he was once the heavyweight champ, but the "Cinderella Man" took him from falling into obscurity(with the exception of the boxing die-hards), to once again a household name... Braddock's stuff took a pretty nice spike in price after the movie came out. I imagine "Eight Men Out" had a similar effect on the Black Sox collectibles. Obviously, not quite to the extent of Braddock, but similar nonetheless.

uffda51 · #4 05-28-2011, 01:28 PM

I've got a Black Sox page at imageevent:

http://imageevent.com/uffda51/1919chicagoblacksox

quinnsryche · #5 05-28-2011, 02:18 PM

I am on the other side of the fence from most on this one. As a White Sox fan I find it ebarassing and shameful to be associated with such an act. I actively avoid any and all cards of the "Black Sox" and only look at their actions with disdain. There is nothing romantic or cool about what they did. I know others have been involved in such actions in baseball history (Chase & the like) but that doesn't make it right. Collect what you like, I'm not judging, but I will not partake in the glamourization of such criminal actions in the game I truly love more than any other.
Peace!

Matt · #6 05-28-2011, 10:03 PM

Oversized PC:

ValKehl · #7 05-28-2011, 10:28 PM

Gandil with the Senators.

71buc · #8 05-30-2011, 08:23 PM

1920 News item

Bosox Blair · #9 05-30-2011, 09:05 PM

Borderline Hall-of-Fame career flushed down the old john...

JamesGallo · #10 06-01-2011, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

I am on the other side of the fence from most on this one. As a White Sox fan I find it ebarassing and shameful to be associated with such an act. I actively avoid any and all cards of the "Black Sox" and only look at their actions with disdain. There is nothing romantic or cool about what they did. I know others have been involved in such actions in baseball history (Chase & the like) but that doesn't make it right. Collect what you like, I'm not judging, but I will not partake in the glamourization of such criminal actions in the game I truly love more than any other.
Peace!

Interesting tha you feel this way considering the tight wad owner certainly contributated to the way the palyeres felt hence the reason they felt the needed a pay day.

I don't think what they did was right but there is a lot more to it then just some greedy players looking for a pay out.

James G

quinnsryche · #11 06-02-2011, 09:18 AM

James, I understand that Comiskey was a jerk and cheapskate but that doesn't excuse what the players did. Just because my boss is a cheapskate doesn't give me the right to steal from the company. Those players signed contracts to play for a certain amount of money, if they didn't like it, they could go back to working in the mines or carrying ice etc. I get a tad tired of the "oh poor players" excuse as most made 100X what the average worker of those days made. We're they paid and treated like the players of today? No, but they didn't suffer much either considering the alternative.
Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

JamesGallo · #12 06-02-2011, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

James, I understand that Comiskey was a jerk and cheapskate but that doesn't excuse what the players did. Just because my boss is a cheapskate doesn't give me the right to steal from the company. Those players signed contracts to play for a certain amount of money, if they didn't like it, they could go back to working in the mines or carrying ice etc. I get a tad tired of the "oh poor players" excuse as most made 100X what the average worker of those days made. We're they paid and treated like the players of today? No, but they didn't suffer much either considering the alternative.
Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

It was more then just being a jerk and a cheapskate. He did whatever he wanted to that was in his best interest. That including not talking to Jackson, benching Cicotte so he wouldn't get his bonus and god know what else. Sure they were treated better then coal workers but they were still taken advantage of to a high degree.

My point is that if you love the team and hate what the players did that you have to hate the owner as well, which IMO makes it tough to love the team when Comiskey pretty much made the team. I just feel that if commy wasn't so selfish this might not have occured.

Anyway to keep up with the nature of the post, here are some of my goodies.

Some of these photos are a bit out of date as I have upgraded many of these and added others that aren't shown.

James G

drdduet · #13 06-02-2011, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbvc

Some time between 1911-1919. Mineral Wells, Tex. Anyone recognize the player?

Dick Egan with some white sox guy on his back?

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