SGC/PSA grading of undersized cards

[E93]

I think that Joss card is trimmed along the bottom edge. Both it has a wave to it (left side bigger than right) and from the scan it looks sharper (no natural roll that the other three sides have). Just my opinion. It is hard to tell for sure from scans. Good luck.
JimB

[npa589]

Deemed A, most likely it is, just wanted to get some opinions from you guys on here.

[GoldenAge50s]

Beautiful card---only thing I can think of was it was oversized w/ definite evidence showing of having been cut down.

[npa589]

I've compared its size with over 100 T206 cards that I have and have noticed a couple things. The Tinker is taller than some, and if it is taller, it is thinner by like 1/32nd of an inch. Many cards it is the same exact size from left to right, AND is taller. There are several the Tinker is equal to regarding top to bottom size and there are only a few where the Tinker is actually shorter from top to bottom.

I agree that if you look at it, it looks a little undersized from left to right, but when you compare it with other cards, you'd be very surprised to see how many cards that have been graded are the same size from left to right.

It's hard for me to see that it was trimmed or cut down by anyone other than the original factory.

Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s

Beautiful card---only thing I can think of was it was oversized w/ definite evidence showing of having been cut down.

[GoldenAge50s]

If it were mine I'd crack it out & send to SGC--nothing to lose!

[steve B]

Tough to tell from the size scans that fit here.

The upper left corner looks slightly different. Could be the scan, could be just how it looks on my monitor, but it does look different than others.

if you scan the card at high resolution - 800 or 1200 DPI - you'll be able to see the fine details of the edges. Factory cut edges have a slight ridge on the back from where the cutting blade pushed through the stack of cardboard. That ridge also usually has very slight chipping. A perfectly smooth edge is usually from a different sort of cutter- Xacto knife, utility knife, something like that.
If the knife on the cutter was freshly sharp it can be tough to tell. And if the knife was dull, or if the sacrificial strip the blade cut into was worn the edge can be very ridged and chipped. One of mine is like that, obviously factory cut, but the ridge and chipping must have been too heavy for SGC to be comfortable giving it a number. Rejected as "miscut top and bottom edge".

Steve B

[bobbyw8469]

If it were mine I'd crack it out & send to SGC--nothing to lose!

SGC won't grade it! They will reject it with a note saying "SHORT". I know first hand! I just wasted $25 trying to get a 1934 Gehrig that I won from Lew Lipsets last auction into a holder. No dice!

[cfc1909]

if the card is not trimmed or altered SGC will give it a numbered grade. If the card is trimmed or altered they will give it the A grade.

As you can see this Demmitt is well short but not altered in any way

Demmitt.jpgDemmittb.jpg