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Old 05-15-2011, 05:11 AM
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you said "Some of the "confirmed" subjects with the shading are common E90-1s; In particular Keeler (pink), Wagner (bat), Harry Davis, and Miller"------- NONE of these are CONFIRMED BY ME or anyone else..it was posted these had a "touch" of shading which is not the same...

just went over this entire thread, i see no evidence of Keeler Pink or davis shaded...

Brian made a post on page 3 were he listed some of his cards that had a "touch" of shading...the keeler pink was listed there....this does not mean it is a variation....

ED, what cards do you think CANT be shaded version because they were too common?

Just curious, thanks for your response!

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Old 05-15-2011, 05:31 AM
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Default Pop Report check reveals more!

just checked the PSA pop report again,and it sure confirms the shaded versions!

cards found with shaded version

group A (solid red background, action posses )

Richie 10 on the Pop report, yes only 10!!!
Sheckard 11
Tenney 11
Demmitt 11
Pastorius 12
Marquard HOF 22
Wagner batting HOF 28

amazingly similar pop reports!!!! shows how rare and tough these cards are ...raise your hand if you are surprised to see the pop reorts on these are less than those listed rarities below!!!!

as a comparative reference to KNOWN rarities:

mike mitchell 18
peaches graham 18
larry mclean 11
hans lobert 12
ed walsh 20
H duffy 16

(joe jackson 58)

my discovery may change the way we look at E90-1 RARITIES...[Peaches graham are so numerous, i need a RICHIE! POP 10..and maybe i can get a shaded version Richie!! POP 3]
this is fun!

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Old 05-15-2011, 05:37 AM
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Confirmed Group B (Blue and green background with mountains)

roy thomas 14 pop only!!!!
wiltse 15
froome 17
schlitzer 14
camnitz 16
groom 13

Again all VERY SIMILAR POP NUMBERS that are far less than the COMMONS which many have over double and triple the amount of graded examples....

If one of these shaded cards in groups A or B had a POP report dissimilar to the others, then that could blow a hole in the theory...BUT since they have uncanningly similar POP reports, it supports my theory.....


comparative pop reports:
summers 43
Bailey 36
f clarke 42
h howell 39
mullin 38
hartzell 34
sweeney 36
criger 32

HOF's
Cobb 114
Lajoie 54
wallace 52
joss portrait 59
bender 44
HR baker 58
jennings 57
mathewson 66
cy Young 55

ED, i dont agree with your assessment that Wagner batting or marquard are "common" ...they have half the amount of graded cards of most other HOF in this set (1/3 less than many)...they are actually 2 of the rarest (POP wise) HOFs found in this set! Known HOF toughies Tris speaker has pop report of 14, and Cy Young Cleveland has 16 POP report...so POP 22 is in the ballbark of these known HOF rarities!!!!

in this set, HOFers are graded about twice as often as a similar non HOF counterpart...this appears true on the POP report and on the Group A shaded cards (wagner and marquard have almost exactly double the graded version of sheckard, demmitt, tenney, pastorius)

it all makes perfect sense !!
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can anyone join me?

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Old 05-15-2011, 07:07 AM
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A few Hof's here. None shaded.

Question for Scott., Have you tried decaf?
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