Nicholls SC150 649 OP CONTROVERSY

[wonkaticket]

And there you have it forum member’s right from ol’ greatness himself.

"I cannot say it exists or it does not exist. Perhaps, I imagined it several years ago when I put together this sub-set."

Hmmmm I wonder how many cards you are chasing right now are imagined or figments of Ted’s imagination or story telling or epic yarns?

Look back at this thread and see where he said these are made up and not real...hmmm looks a lot like a guy bragging about cards he doesn't have...hmmm.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=91120

Enjoy your lists from Ted Z, let me know how ya make out.

John

[danmckee]

John, Please remind me nver to piss you off, thanks Dan.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by danmckee

John, Please remind me nver to piss you off, thanks Dan.

[wonkaticket]

LMAO that is the greatest thing ever....! Thanks for that.

Cheers,

John

[mrvster]

John,


I vote you,Tim and Jim as the new t206 crusaders!!....although there are many others(Art M, Etc.,Ect.).......keep hold of the flame


we must look to your research primarily...unless a Nicholls is
produced, might as well burn Ted's lists.....

i'm usually the Peace keeper, but this hobby sees enough CRAP!!!

we don't need it from one of our "brain trust"....story telling i'm leaving up to Mary Poppins...



these cards make people do some strange things
Why is

......some super great points....

Ted, why NO RESPONSE????!!!

PLEASE MAN!! tell us you had a momentary lapse of reason...

just admit it, and we can move on...if not , collectors will be chasing their own tales for what???eventually collectors will catch on that some of the cards you said existed , really don't exist..


either way, the truth will come out....we would accept you back, admit your mistakes, just change your ways....we could use some good , honest research
it is just another bruise that collectors don't want to deal with, and turn people off of the hobby....i love my cards, don't get me wrong, but crap like this turns me sour


Respectfully,

Johnny

[mrvster]

Jim,

Please get together with Tim and John and pick up where you guys left off...I(and i'm sure many other collectors) follow you and John's back scarcity (except the blank backs) lists... and you collectors a true back aficinados


Scot Reader's work is still the t206 manual.....but this set evolves everyday!

just my 2 cents

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by danmckee

John, Please remind me nver to piss you off, thanks Dan.

Dan,
True, but I'd love to see the T-Shirts!

[mintacular]

on the video

[Leon]

Hey guys,

While I understand all of the arguments, probably better than I want to, this personal attacking is not going to continue on this board. Even if mistakes were made I don't think it's right that every time Ted breathes he gets attacked. Ted might have included things in the listings that should not have been included, maybe some poor decisions were made in the process, but this personal attacking is going to cease. It's just not right. Ted has a lot to offer in the way of knowledge and I think every one is much more aware (now) of being careful when accounting for cards that exist, or don't. As a matter of fact in the next few weeks I hope to come out with some very interesting information about this very topic. It might include some 206 information but will definitely address the concerns of verifying what we are doing before reporting it as the gospel. Ya'll can make fun of me, or joke around at me, that is fine. No problem. Everyone that has good intentions should be able to post on the board without fear of being persecuted. Again, trust me, I get it; all of it. best regards

edited to add....I do agree with Jim R's post right above too......We all need to work together to send out correct information that has been fully verified, not only through an unknown email etc......

[nolemmings]

Thanks Leon.

[wonkaticket]

You’re right Leon I’m sure all the story telling, lies about cards Ted doesn’t own sending collectors on wild goose chases for cards that don’t exist, butchering lists and years of collectors works with mis-information, adding info to lists with no qualified inputs for years was all done with the best intentions.

Attack or being mean or not whatever. I find it funny about be easy on Ted take a look over the years at the way the man has talked to many new collectors funny never saw you or anyone asking him to take a chill pill.

Let’s also be clear and on the record here Leon he has been caught lying make no mistakes.

These are not innocent errors or oversights and it’s insulting to the people who know better I would think you included would feel that way as much as you are a historian of this hobby Mr. buy the 1939 catalog out from under me, and a travesty for the folks who depend on this board for an education and web based learning annex.

Johnny is also correct and one of the few who has had the guts and upset enough, rightfully so to say something. More importantly ask Ted why he feels the need to ignore our information and proof in black & white written by him we didn’t make this stuff it’s on this forum read it.

But if you feel getting along and allowing Ted to continue his stories is what is best so be it.

I guess that’s where we differ, I can’t be cool with a guy putting out bad info and lies to new collectors who depend on this site, and if making one person happy is at the expense of a community or hobby I have issue with that.

Leon Ted can share without telling stories lots of us do that FYI, you don't need to act the expert and each turn especially when you have to make up stuff to play the role, heck just in his Elite 8 thread he had misinformation.

Is it really too much to ask that if you’re going present theories on a set, take the time to really research prior to posting and check for errors, give credit to your sources and if you use folks information you don’t screw it up.

Most important of all don’t lie about findings and lie to prove your theories right when questioned in a professional manner.

Attacks or barbs however you would like to see it.

Many of us for years have had tried to have conversations with Ted in a civil manner Ted won’t have it, he’s right you’re a moron for questioning him end of story.

You push it then you’re picking on Ted and outcome the protective sheep…its clear good hobby info isn’t priority it’s making sure Ted Z is happy is.

Cheers,

John