T206 Scrapbook on Ebay

[jimq]

In one of the pictures there are some cleveland players and above them it is written "Cleveland's Indians never won a ... but Addie Joss kept them up there"

Tells me that it was put together much later and the story about the owner being involved in baseball is crap.

Joss died in 1911 and the Naps weren't renamed the Indians until 1915 when Lajoie went back to Philadelphia.

Anybody that involved in baseball and baseball card collecting would have known that.

[ullmandds]

I'm beginning to think you guys may be right...that this is a modern day concoction of xerox copies with a few commons thrown in...I'm sure paypal will save the day on this one!

[T206Collector]

I'll go on record as saying that the book is legitimate.

The cards don't look too thin to me.

The seller recently sold an interesting signed Bender item:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180642521529

The bad feedback appears to be mostly communication/shipping problems.

The seller is also selling a signed Cy Young ball, that has been GAI authenticated:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SINGLE-SIGNED-RA...item2a1054a517

If you look in the picture of the Young ball, you'll see an auction description about how this came from the collection of some dude who put it together in the 1920s or 1930s. The scrapbook was probably put together around that time -- obviously a lot of wear and tear to those cards before they were put into the scrapbook.

Neat old book. Would love to have it. But wouldn't pay more than $1,000 for it....

[T206DK]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I'm beginning to think you guys may be right...that this is a modern day concoction of xerox copies with a few commons thrown in...I'm sure paypal will save the day on this one!

like I said in a prior post. I see these types of "albums" all the time at the flea markets and antique stores in southern ohio. The posting of the question by an anonymous ebayer was hilarious. I like the "threat" of cancelling your bids at the bottom of the page. I'm still waiting for a bidder with low or private feedback to start really bidding this item up tonight. I'm sure this seller has all his friends and relatives that shill for him ready to roll . As for PAYPAL saving the day....I hope so, but a new trick by unscrupulous sellers is to set up several bank accounts with PAYPAL. they simply cancel the account immediately after the high dollar fraudulaent auction ends and switch over to a new PAYPAL/bank account and new Ebay name. I know sellers that have tables at the saturday monthly shows in Dayton and Cincy that have more than 5 Ebay accounts that they use to buy and sell from. their wives and sons and daughters also have multiple accpunts that they can use too. It's pretty sad, but it is happening everyday on ebay folks and they cannot really police it.

[nolemmings]

There are certainly a couple of red flags, but I think it's real. The scrapbook has clippings dating to 1932, when John McGraw left the Giants, another referencing something about Earl Averill in 1930, and a photo of a mature Babe Ruth. Pasted on the same page as the McGraw article are a couple of T206 Giants, suggesting that maybe the whole book was put together in 1932, in which case days of yore might certainly apply to cards issued 20 years prior.

What I find very telling is the trimmed m101 card of Wally Schang. These cards are pretty meticulously organized by team, and there is the Wally Schang card (the pose that appears in about a dozen sets) smack dab in the middle of several Detroit Tigers. Schang only played for the Tigers during one season--1931--and the m101 card has him on the A's. So someone ignored the card's caption, trimmed it and just randomly placed it among the Tigers? I doubt it. Seems like alot of homework for a modern-day scammer to go through on such an obscure and minor detail. BTW, the same can be said for the m101-4 Clarence Walker card, which would declare him to be on the Red Sox but which was trimmed and pasted among the St. Louis Browns, where Walker had played previously. This and the fact that there are many out of the ordinary cards (Minos and Zeenuts) leads me to buy into the seller's claim that these are real, albeit damaged cards.

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

There are certainly a couple of red flags, but I think it's real. The scrapbook has clippings dating to 1932, when John McGraw left the Giants, another referencing something about Earl Averill in 1930, and a photo of a mature Babe Ruth. Pasted on the same page as the McGraw article are a couple of T206 Giants, suggesting that maybe the whole book was put together in 1932, in which case days of yore might certainly apply to cards issued 20 years prior.

What I find very telling is the trimmed m101 card of Wally Schang. These cards are pretty meticulously organized by team, and there is the Wally Schang card (the pose that appears in about a dozen sets) smack dab in the middle of several Detroit Tigers. Schang only played for the Tigers during one season--1931--and the m101 card has him on the A's. So someone ignored the card's caption, trimmed it and just randomly placed it among the Tigers? I doubt it. Seems like alot of homework for a modern-day scammer to go through on such an obscure and minor detail. BTW, the same can be said for the m101-4 Clarence Walker card, which would declare him to be on the Red Sox but which was trimmed and pasted among the St. Louis Browns, where Walker had played previously. This and the fact that there are many out of the ordinary cards (Minos and Zeenuts) leads me to buy into the seller's claim that these are real, albeit damaged cards.

+1. I was trying to write a very similar reply last night but couldn't get the words out. You said it much better than I. Some kid put this together in the 30s which is why the tobacco cards are all creased etc. All cards have similar hack job and it's just too consistent to be a whole cloth fake.

[Cat]

Went for a healthy price.

Edited to add: If a board member got it, I would pay a healthy price for one particular card.