checklist for T206 by teams?

[cfc1909]

I would be glad to go over your list for you and check them for accuracy but would caution using the list complied by Ted Z. Can't say the White Sox list is inaccurate as I have not seen that list. There are plenty of errors on the back lists that were posted on this forum.

[tedzan]

I have not compiled any T206 Chicago American list.

I don't understand what you are referring to ?

I have reprised the thread listing the various T206 front / back combos. If you have any additional information or corrections,
please provide it and I will update the specific list(s).


TED Z

[cfc1909]

I am referring to the backs lists as being inaccurate. You have cards on confirmed lists that don't exist and cards on no print lists that do exists. Clerical errors happen when your compiling this much information, and confirming cards simply by posts or emails opens yourself up to bad inputs. But what bothers me most is when I have come to you with subjects/players that do not belong on the list, you have gone to great lengths, even crossed ethical lines to prove to me a card exists when it doesn't. Why? Because you have claimed on more than one occasion to have completed sets with these front/back combos that don't exist.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=91120

You claimed to have completed the Sweet Caporal 150 No.649 OP set of 35 cards. Simon Nicholls shouldn't be on this list, but you can't remove it because you claim to have owned it. Keeping it on the list continues to put bad information out to collectors but removing it means you never owned it.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=91361

Here is a "Mission Accomplished" thread for an American Beauty 460 set of 70 cards. You claim to own these 70 cards. "So, it's taken me 4 years to acquire 70 cards." 3 cards on this list do not exist with an American Beauty 460 back. John Frill is on this list of 70 that you acquired yet within the last year you claimed the card was a no print until a scan was posted that proved otherwise. How does a card go from being in your collection to a no print?

Recently you again claimed to complete the American Beauty 460 subset of now 75 cards. 75 is accurate this time. When asked by several board members to bring the AB 460 set to the Oaks show you gave no response. I came to you Saturday at the show to talk reasonably and see this set. You claim to have sold 28 cards including the Cobb for 4k Friday night. Other members including Leon L, Dan M and John M were at the show Friday and you could have shown them the set but you didn't. Simply put you can't show what you don't have. Why is it that you can scan sheets of uncut Bowman's yet you don't have scans of all 75 ABs or the Simon Nicholls 649?

Several collectors have been working for years on these lists, they were shared with you privately and you posted them and took full credit. But it's not the credit that bothers me, it's the inaccuracies and perpetuation of known bad information.

I won't sit and point out all of the mistakes on every list as some are close and others have mistakes into the double digits. Most importantly I won't give any credibility to these list knowing the dishonesty that has taken place in creating them.

I do have the lists that I work from and will be happy to help anyone that is working on a project that needs an accurate list. I'm hoping in the near future to have the lists in a format I can share with everyone.

I realize anyone can make a mistake it's what you do when that mistake is brought to your attention that matters.

[mrvster]

[wonkaticket]

AB460 subset...hmmm.....

August 2, 2008

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=90776

Post #1
"Currently, I have 40 - T206's with AB 460 backs."

September 2, 2008

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=90968

Post #8
"Still ongoing is my American Beauty 460 sub-set. It has taken me longer to approach the 67,or so, cards needed to complete this run than the above 3 sets. So far, I have 44 different Subjects with a AB 460 backs"

November 20, 2008

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=91361

Post #1
"So, it's taken me 4 years to acquire 70 cards."

So in August 2008 Ted claimed to own 40 cards.Then by September Ted added four more (believable) but within 2 months he added 30+ AB460 cards even cards that have yet to be seen with AB460?

30+ AB460's off a want list in two months unreal…almost unbelievable given the inaccuracies already shown.Then when asked to show them by dozens of folks didn't do it.

Funny got all the time in the world to type lists full of mistakes, talk to folks offline, make up long winded stories to other collectors about cards he needs for HOF collections, call me and others to continue to toss under the bus other collectors who called him out, rally support all around the forum and at shows against anyone who dare go against the grain if you will, read and post emails from folks who may or may not be real with their information, post giant pics of uncut Bowman sheets....but no time to take a snap shot of 75 AB460's or walk them over to show some folks within feet of him in a public place prior to selling them for a record low to some unknown mystery collector.

And people wonder why some of us say take these lists with a grain of salt, or worse dare question the great Ted Z's findings and information.

Cheers,

John

[DixieBaseball]

Holy Cow ! This should be interesting...

[Mikehealer]

I hate to interrupt but I'm pretty sure there is no Joe Doyle (batting) card.

[tcdyess]

Heard back from psa again, looks like this may be a go! I never thought they would agree, but it was certainly worth a shot!

Tim

[Tom S.]

Tim,

Good that you heard back from PSA on your set request. Hope that they are able to come through for you.