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Old 05-01-2011, 01:22 PM
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Default Wow, David, sorry to see that.

any chance there's evidence of the case being previously cracked open? any cracks or frosting on the edges?
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Old 05-01-2011, 02:52 PM
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Pretty good looking 52 if not for the obvious problems pointed out. Did the corners not show up well in the scan before you bought it?
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Old 05-01-2011, 02:57 PM
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I wonder if that's a case of a "card doctor" rebuilding the corners, PSA thinking they were just slightly rounded (thus the 4 grade), and then the rebuilt corners falling apart later.
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:01 PM
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Wow, that is amazing. Seems like they averaged things, ie. centering 8, surface 8, edges 8, corners 1 = VGEX 4?
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Wow, that is amazing. Seems like they averaged things, ie. centering 8, surface 8, edges 8, corners 1 = VGEX 4?
this is atleast plausible... I know Beckett uses a system similar to this when grading cards.
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The image for the back of the card, makes the card look trimmed down the side. Look at the left side of the back image posted, and then compare to the right side up against the case. It has a left to right slant.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:34 AM
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The image for the back of the card, makes the card look trimmed down the side. Look at the left side of the back image posted, and then compare to the right side up against the case. It has a left to right slant.
Another possibility is that the back has a slight diamond cut so it makes it look like it has been trimmed. If I were a gambling man, I would place all my money on reconstructed corners. JMHO.
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this is atleast plausible... I know Beckett uses a system similar to this when grading cards.

Beckett's system is not an average. I used to think the same thing until I got some clarification from them. The truth is...if you have 8 / 8 / 8 / 1......the final grade can not be higher than one half point step above the lowest subgrade. In this case it would have to be graded 1.5 under Beckett rules.

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Beckett's system is not an average. I used to think the same thing until I got some clarification from them. The truth is...if you have 8 / 8 / 8 / 1......the final grade can not be higher than one half point step above the lowest subgrade. In this case it would have to be graded 1.5 under Beckett rules.
Is this a new change? I thought it was 2 grades higher than the lowest subgrade? So in your example it would be a 3.

Either way, I agree, it's not an average. But I still like seeing the subgrades and wish the others would provide that detail.
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I wonder if that's a case of a "card doctor" rebuilding the corners, PSA thinking they were just slightly rounded (thus the 4 grade), and then the rebuilt corners falling apart later.
You know, that was my thought as well. The top two corners look almost perfect and the bottom two are falling apart. I have looked at them under magnification and they don't appear to be rebuilt, but I may be missing it. I need to look at it again with a better magnifier.

The slab has definitely not been compromised.
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That card looks awful tight in there. Is there a chance the slabbing process itself damaged the card ? Looks like there's a light crease near the top to knock it down to a 4 otherwise.

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