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Old 04-20-2011, 05:13 PM
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Your right there arent many sets as big as the T206 group.... T206 set is really a bunch of sets issued over multiple years collected as a group (individual brands and 150, 350, 460 sub etc). Thats the only reason its so big.

T210 group is bigger than T206 group, for one, and if you just considered 1 year of T206 (ie 150 subjects, 1909), then you have many sets that equal it in size or are bigger.

T209-2 (B&W) is a big set too.


Its actually funny that T206 could ever be thought of as in the same league with a set like E107. Every single card in E107 is 5X+ rarer than the T206 Wagner (not rare), including the E107 Honus Wagner... his rookie, along with other rookies like Mathewson, Plank, Bender, Waddell, Joss, Lajoie, etc. etc. etc.

PS. How many E107 sets are out there?? Ive heard of a couple that are/were close... but dont follow it closely.
Ive only owned 2 individual E107 cards in my life...

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Old 04-20-2011, 06:34 PM
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Old judge for sure with all poses and calif league cards.

A T206 set can be completed without any problems given enough funds, the same can't even be said for n172
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I think you also have to look at popularity of a set when you look at price. Some sets are much more rare than T206, but they are not as popular, so prices may not be as high.....

T206, for whatever reason, is much more popular so, set prices may be larger than most other, rarer sets.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:13 PM
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I think you also have to look at popularity of a set when you look at price. Some sets are much more rare than T206, but they are not as popular, so prices may not be as high.....

T206, for whatever reason, is much more popular so, set prices may be larger than most other, rarer sets.
T206 prices aren't high. I could get beater commons for 10-25 dollars. I can't say the same for the so called unpopular rare sets.

I think T206 was more of a monster before the internet js
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Loved Matt's comment on the 1912 Pirate set! I'm with the E107 guys, which should come as no surprise, given my approach--rare and significant! If you think these are expensive now, give it 10-15 years. PSA's graded just 111 of the total 147 players, not counting variations, or an average of less than one of each card. The days of any prejudice due to being a black and white set as opposed to color are long gone--don't you wish you could have bought some in the early '90's? Just looked at one 1995 price guide which shows the Wagner at $3500 in NMt (lol). Maybe someday I'll own one of the keys, even in poor condition.

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Although it is impossible, I'd say a W600 set would be at or near the top.

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Your right there arent many sets as big as the T206 group.... T206 set is really a bunch of sets issued over multiple years collected as a group (individual brands and 150, 350, 460 sub etc). Thats the only reason its so big.

T210 group is bigger than T206 group, for one, and if you just considered 1 year of T206 (ie 150 subjects, 1909), then you have many sets that equal it in size or are bigger.

T209-2 (B&W) is a big set too.


Its actually funny that T206 could ever be thought of as in the same league with a set like E107. Every single card in E107 is 5X+ rarer than the T206 Wagner (not rare), including the E107 Honus Wagner... his rookie, along with other rookies like Mathewson, Plank, Bender, Waddell, Joss, Lajoie, etc. etc. etc.

PS. How many E107 sets are out there?? Ive heard of a couple that are/were close... but dont follow it closely.
Ive only owned 2 individual E107 cards in my life...
Unless I am mistaken, the answer is still zero. I am told that one person is one card away (perhaps a team variation). A couple others are close too... something like 6 away and a dozen or so away. I may be off on those numbers. Scott B. would probably be able to give the correct numbers of how many remain in the "most complete near-sets".

To comment on the scarcity of the E107 Wagner vs. the T206 Wagner, the graded pop of E107 Wagners was 4 at last check (SGC+PSA+GAI). Granted, there are some raw ones out there in a couple of the near sets, but I'd be really surprised if the total surviving exceeded 10. That's probably a pretty conservative number and is higher than what I think is actually out there. Estimates for the population T206 are commonly in the 60 range, but I've also heard numbers higher than that (even on the order of 1.5 times that). I don't have access to PSA pops, so I can't give an apples to apples graded pop comparison, but the scarcity difference is pretty stark.
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