List of sets with incorrect years recorded..

[rhettyeakley]

-E220 is a 1922 issue, not a multi-year issue
-Walter Mails set is from 1924 (see the thread i started several years ago)
-Ted, there are other non-sports sets issued in the 1930-40's in strips that show no signs of having been produced with candy that are R-cards so I don't think that the R346's need to be re-classified just because they were in strips.
-W560 is 1929 at the earliest (see recent thread) as there are players within that were first with that team in 1929.
-It is well known certain players within the 1939-46 Salutation set were printed well beyond the 1946 date (however, the 1939-46 date of the set denotes when that players card FIRST appeared in the Exhibit series as cards (like the more common Ted Williams are known on sheets dated into the 1950's)
-what evidence is there that R315's were issued over a number of years? Unless a set drops/adds players and/or updates teams why do we like to assume multi-year issues when there is no evidence of it being so (like E220)?
-Witmor Candy is from 1921
-Henry Johnson is from 1921
-Haffner's if from 1921
-Gassler's is from 1921
-Keating Candy is from 1921
-Holsum Bread is both a 1920 & 1921 production (you CAN tell the early from the later set)
-The T203 Mayo Baseball Comics is probably from 1908-10 or so (not 1900) and was prbably produced around the same time as the closely related T114 Up To Date Comics set

[DanP]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

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-Witmor Candy is from 1921

Rhett: How do you know Witmor Candy is from 1921?

[rhettyeakley]

The Witmor candy set was produced concurrently with the E121 Series of 80 set in 1921, and actually it was from the earlier production of that set as the later updates (the "ends in eighty" cards made near the end of the season/World Series) were not included in the set. It is undoubtedly a 1921 set. In 1922 the American Caramel Co. produced the Series of 120 and the E120 set. I also believe the E122 set was produced in 1921 and not 1922 but that one will be tougher to prove as they just reused images from the early print runs of E121 Series of 80 and re-photographed them, and I guess they could have done that in 1922 but like I said it too is likely a 1921 issue. The Gassler's set is an interesting one because it is from late 1921 and was produced concurrently with the late Series of 80 runs (end in eighty cards)and the Koester's Bread set as it includes those New York players that first show up in the time line around the time of the 1921 World Series.
-Rhett

[tedzan]

The cover of my Goodwin Champions (A36) Album has an interesting inscription that is dated "1889". The Goodwin Champions (N162) set
is catalogued as an 1888 issue. When I acquired this Album many years ago, this inscription aroused my curiousity. So, were these cards
actually issued in 1889 ?

Yes, this may be anecdotal.....however, at least two factors suggest that this set must have been issued in 1889 (instead of 1888).

Beecher was in the Yale Class of 1888

But, most significant is........
Fred Dunlap was traded to Pittsburgh on Nov 5, 1887. On his card he is identified as Pittsburgh's Captain (manager). Researching this, I
find that he was a player / Manager with Pittsburgh in 1889.






TED Z

[DanP]

Originally Posted by tedzan

But, most significant is........
Fred Dunlap was traded to Pittsburgh on Nov 5, 1887. On his card he is identified as Pittsburgh's Captain (manager). Researching this, I
find that he was a player / Manager with Pittsburgh in 1889.
TED Z

Wow! Ted, could that mean that the N28 was issued 89-90 instead of 87-88?

[bcbgcbrcb]

Thus far from everyone's responses, it seems that in almost every single case, any dating discrepancies always seem to be later than the originally believed issue dates, are there any cases where it is earlier?

[tedzan]

I would say that the Allen & Ginter sets (N28 & N29) were issued in 1888 & 1889, respectively.

I don't think these two sets were issued after the N162 set.


TED Z

[Joe_G.]

I believe N28 (Bennett) & N29 (Getzien) were both 1888 issues, Detroit's last year in the league and only year they wore striped uniforms. N162 is an 1888 issue as well (Brouthers with Detroit).