Maris, Mantle, Tresh, Yankees Ball

[Piedmont Sport]

Mike - I guess you won't be using them - because I'm certain the Aaron will get a full letter - I would not be so quick to judge any autograph that dosen't look like a show auto. Just because it dosen't have the swirls or loop's that the 80's 90's Baseball Card Convention sig's had - dosen't mean it's alway's bad. As a matter of fact those are the ones that are mostly forged. Remember there was a time when people and kids would run up and get a players sig. and many appear NOT to look like the Show autograph - This was before Auction houses and Dealers started to trace and create their own authenicating services and deem whats good and not good. Its very important to know where that autograoh came from. That's my 2 cents.

[mr2686]

Frank,

I never said anything about the Aaron. As a matter of fact, I believe it's good based on older sigs that I have seen. As for the Mantle, the only way PSA or Spence can authenticate that is if they have "proven" exemplars that look like that...and they don't because there aren't any. Guess what, I have many Mantle in person sigs, as well as being in Hotel bars where he and Ford were drinking and seeing how they signed for people that walked up to them, and they were nothing like this. Maybe if someone walked up to him on his death bed, but that's about it.
I guess, using your logic, if it looks nothing like a normal Mantle sig, then it must be good because the forgers wouldn't do that.
That's 2 more cents for the pot.

[Piedmont Sport]

Hard to imagaine anyone forging a good 50's Aaron with a bad Mantle and address it to Harold Kaplan - as my photo's show same guy on the Williams ball that got cert'd by Spence. I have a great collection of so called good mantles - williams - joe d's with LOA'S that are bad.

[mr2686]

Soooooooo, you're basing the authenticity of the autograph based on it being addressed to someone that also has the same address on a good autograph for another player? Wow.

[Piedmont Sport]

Dosen't everyone do the same process - Coaches Corner - Chris Moralas - STAT - and so on and so on - are you buying stuff from them or just walking away assuming it's bad. Maybe you would like to buy some mantles from me they come with full letters or i can list them on ebay because they are from one of the good sources - Chris Williams would do an Omen move his head would spin around - lol

[mr2686]

Ok..so now you're comparing yourself to Coaches Corner, Stat, Morrales? I've heard enough thanks. Beam me up Scotty.

[Piedmont Sport]

You took it wrong - I WOULD NOT BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE - and i would not expect you to as well - I just phrased it incorrectly - my point was we all in some way make decsions on where the material came from or who's selling it.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Piedmont Sport

Dosen't everyone do the same process - Coaches Corner - Chris Moralas - STAT - and so on and so on - are you buying stuff from them or just walking away assuming it's bad. Maybe you would like to buy some mantles from me they come with full letters or i can list them on ebay because they are from one of the good sources - Chris Williams would do an Omen move his head would spin around - lol

Frank,

FYI, head spinning around was from that "other" demon movie called The Exorcist