Now that's a markup

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Actually it is so bad.

The hearing for sentencing was held on September 22nd in San Diego. Defendants John Slight and Craig Kreider of When It Was A Game, Inc. pled guilty to mail fraud and both were given probation. Kreider and Slight were fined $3,000 each and the corporation of When It Was A Game, Inc. also was fined $6,000.

Long, old, sordid story about switching cards out of PSA slabs. Very well publicized on the CU boards.

Oops,,, did not know that.

[Big Dave]

Clicked on the ebay listing and it has been removed.

Any idea why?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Clicked on the ebay listing and it has been removed.

Any idea why?

Oddly if you search the sellers ID, dj3000th, it comes up as not a registered user anymore. But u can see he was still selling as of 3/25/11, he just pulled the ball and left Ebay. I guess he took his ball and went home.

I never understood that, why do people leave Ebay?

[olsport]

Actually, I don't think sellers leave ebay. They just open a new account, if they get caught at being unscrupulous or get too many negative feedbacks. There are also others that have back up seperate secondary ebay accounts to shillbid on there own stuff if it is not selling high enough with no reserve. That way they can buy there own item back and resell it. That is what it looks like this seller did. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT They bought this with a seperate different ebay account, then had the nerve to relist it with there same original seller account here for double the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330548008311

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by olsport

Actually, I don't think sellers leave ebay. They just open a new account, if they get caught at being unscrupulous or get too many negative feedbacks. There are also others that have back up seperate secondary ebay accounts to shillbid on there own stuff if it is not selling high enough with no reserve. That way they can buy there own item back and resell it. That is what it looks like this seller did. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT They bought this with a seperate different ebay account, then had the nerve to relist it with there same original seller account here for double the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330548008311

Good catch on that!

[thetruthisoutthere]

Sellers just don't leave Ebay, they simply get caught.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by olsport

Actually, I don't think sellers leave ebay. They just open a new account, if they get caught at being unscrupulous or get too many negative feedbacks. There are also others that have back up seperate secondary ebay accounts to shillbid on there own stuff if it is not selling high enough with no reserve. That way they can buy there own item back and resell it. That is what it looks like this seller did. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT They bought this with a seperate different ebay account, then had the nerve to relist it with there same original seller account here for double the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330548008311

I see this all the time with all kinds of collectibles. Essentially the seller uses a shill to create a "hidden reserve." Sometimes the shill wins.

I've asked why items have been relisted and the seller usually states something along the lines of, "Buyer backed out."



The tell is when the relisted item is listed for a much higher price or Buy it Now than what it "sold" for the first time.