Chris Morales Suing Steve Cyrkin

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

can you image Morales during the discovery phase where lawyers get to ask him questions under oath?

As Barry Bonds found out, not a good idea to lie under oath!

Go to the below link:

http://live.autographmagazine.com/pr...g_com_blogpost

[mr2686]

That's too funny. I guess it's going to take judges and lawyers in the hobby to attack the credibility of these "authenticators" before we can get them out of the business. Once they're gone, we can get at the dealers.

[danc]

My favorite part of the testimony is when he admits to using Mark Allen Baker's "Baseball Hall Of Fame Handbook" (or named something like that), even though that book is full of fraudulent examples. Basically ALL of the pre-1900 examples, as if Dan Brouthers and Tim Keefe signed like infants.

So the forger provides him with "those famous signed cuts" that used THAT BOOK to create the examples and he matches it up and it's a go for a certificate? I have authentic exemplars of both, but a man whose job it is to know signatures doesn't? So anyone who has this book can be an authenticator?

DanC

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by danc

My favorite part of the testimony is when he admits to using Mark Allen Baker's "Baseball Hall Of Fame Handbook" (or named something like that), even though that book is full of fraudulent examples. Basically ALL of the pre-1900 examples, as if Dan Brouthers and Tim Keefe signed like infants.

So the forger provides him with "those famous signed cuts" that used THAT BOOK to create the examples and he matches it up and it's a go for a certificate? I have authentic exemplars of both, but a man whose job it is to know signatures doesn't? So anyone who has this book can be an authenticator?

DanC

Well written, Dan. How about the part when he (Morales) was asked by the judge "Did you perform an ink analysis?" and he (Morales) replies "I looked at the ink." Is that how a real "forensic examiner" replies to a question like that!!!??? And some of his exemplars where photographs he took at the Smithsonian!!!??? What the heck....!!!

[drc]

Reading requires looking at the ink.

[Ringking]

It's about time somebody sued that trash of a blog site. All they do is bash people and items with nothing to back it up.

2 people are being sued from that blog, with more to come from what I have heard.

[jeffects]

So Morales is a fraud, No kidding! Try checking out some of the laughable claims and credentials of a few of JSA's "experts". Give me a break!

Jeff Clark

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Ringking

It's about time somebody sued that trash of a blog site. All they do is bash people and items with nothing to back it up.

2 people are being sued from that blog, with more to come from what I have heard.

So you are saying Cyrkin has no reason to criticize Morales? "Nothing to back it up"?

Who are you?


- Steve Zarelli