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Old 03-21-2011, 09:59 AM
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Default $14K in restorations

So the last sale was at $222K, and then another $14K in restorations. The question is, how much will that restoration ultimately cost? Anyone here think it will sell for over $200K?

On a side note, is there a way to un-restore it... or would that be a re-restoration?
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:04 AM
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Default Pre-restoration scans

Here are the pre-restoration scans from the REA listing:
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:24 AM
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The black borders look kind of funky, I would think that would be the easiest part to restore.

It's pretty amazing what they did from trimmed version to the slabbed version though.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:04 AM
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Anyone here think it will sell for over $200K?
Yes.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:13 AM
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Amazing restoration work. The question I have is how much of a card do you have to have to "restore" a card and not be "creating" a card? If only Wagner's face was found and a restorer created the rest of the card, is that an authentic Wagner, or something else? Could one start with a trimmed Wagner like this and, by dividing it in two, create two authentic restored cards?
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:22 AM
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it is beautiful but i still wish they'd left it in its original form.
with 'excessive' restoration, these 'creations' begin to look like one of those picture cards in the old Masterpiece game.
still 'twill likely go over 200k---'cause folks have the money.
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Default I think it looks terrible

I am honestly not sure what you guys are looking at, i think it looks amateurish in its restoration. Black lines aren't straight top obviously painted. If I could afford a Wagner I sure wouldn't be buying this one.
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I had no idea the card had been restored to that extent. Such a large percentage of the card isn't original anymore. I'd prefer the original also.
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I am honestly not sure what you guys are looking at, i think it looks amateurish in its restoration. Black lines aren't straight top obviously painted. If I could afford a Wagner I sure wouldn't be buying this one.
Glyn I see it totally opposite. After seeing the original, it is even more amazing and beautiful to me. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder I guess
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Glyn I see it totally opposite. After seeing the original, it is even more amazing and beautiful to me. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder I guess

The card just gives off a fake air. Something fishy about it that doesn't pass the smell test. I think if I had it in my collection, it wouldn't be for long.

I predict we see it come around again not long after this sale. Maybe the following year? It just seems like someone with $200K to spend isn't going to want it sitting in this card.

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Amazing restoration work. The question I have is how much of a card do you have to have to "restore" a card and not be "creating" a card? If only Wagner's face was found and a restorer created the rest of the card, is that an authentic Wagner, or something else? Could one start with a trimmed Wagner like this and, by dividing it in two, create two authentic restored cards?
I was also wondering the same thing.

On this certain card, they did a little more than "a touch up".........but there is no doubt that it will still sell for a large amount of money, because of the hype of a T206 Wagner and the fact that there aren't many available.

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Default Well short of $200K

REA has ended, and I had asked the question if anyone thought it would go over $200K (since the pre-restoration sale was $222K and restoration costs were $14.5K).

Well, it fell well short at $160K (before BP)... any thoughts on this?
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=18282
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REA has ended, and I had asked the question if anyone thought it would go over $200K (since the pre-restoration sale was $222K and restoration costs were $14.5K).

Well, it fell well short at $160K (before BP)... any thoughts on this?
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=18282
Bummer for the consignor.
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I was sad to see that they "restored" that card. Now its unoriginal and fake looking, so I was glad to see the card sold for less than expected. Hopefully this will help discourage this type of modification in the future.
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Sad, looks like suzanne summers... How much would it cost to remove the prosthetics?
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