Response to NY Daily News Article

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

A couple of people still don't have their full names in this thread

Regards
Rich

Agreed....Jim VB (Hi Jim) decided he didn't want his full name out here so edited his comments....That is perfectly fine. The choice is each persons. You can either put your full name in your post in this thread, put it in your sig line or edit your comments out. In a little while, if it's not done, then I will do it. Nothing personal at all. Whether I disagree with someone or agree has no bearing on the rule. This kind of thread just can't have the privacy permitted in strictly "card" based threads. thanks much.

ps....the few here that don't have full names are not confrontational etc.... I don't want to spend anymore time monitoring this crap so hope everyone will just behave

[pwilk17]

Please see copy of post below - You have not replied to this post and I have been waiting for your reply. It is funny how lawyers have rose colored glassses when it comes to their own clients - OJ's lawyers' believed he was innocent and a hell of a good guy.

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Originally Posted by calvindog
Doug, everything that you say above and have said publicly and privately about your years of fraud you have committed at both Mastro and Legendary Auctions is a joke. You brought a simple collection matter, leaked it to the Daily News and then did all that you could to delay the litigation including moving for a change in the judge and ultimately abandoning the case on behalf of Ketap (Mastro successor company). As late as a few weeks ago Ketap was still demanding 300K from Dave to settle -- which was met with laughter. Furthermore, you made very clear that you believed the Goudey not to be trimmed and told Dave you would try to get it slabbed by PSA. In fact, Ketap (of which you are the President) tried to settle the case without giving the Goudey back--we were told you had lost it. When Ketap was told there would be no settlement without the card, it miraculously appeared and was returned. I would love to rifle through your sofa cushions and see what else turns up.

Furthermore, to suggest that you didn't pay any compensation to settle the case is absurd. You abandoned a 400K debt of Dave's -- OF WHICH WE PUBLICLY CLAIMED HE PARTIALLY OWED -- to settle the case. That's called compensation, Doug.

You have also engaged in serious fraud at Legendary while under criminal investigation in connection with Mastro Auctions. The chickens are coming home to roost -- and it could not happen to a more deserving guy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...th_dave_f.html


Not trying to be smart here, but...

I understand that your client in this case has had a financial interest in a grading company. Are hobbyists assured that your client has always acted above board and without conflict of interest?

Every right-thinking hobbyist wants honesty in all dealings.

In the same way, if an auction house or it's employees have broken the law, this should not go unpunished.

[calvindog]

Peter, frankly I thought that your question was so illogical and misplaced that I ignored it; after all, the article was about an auction house and principals under federal criminal investigation which abandoned a lawsuit to recover monies which it claimed were needed to pay consignors. And then paid the person who it claimed owed them hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And your insulting comments about lawyers also suggests a level of ignorance that I felt didn't warrant a second of my time. "It's funny how lawyers have rose colored glasses when it comes to their own clients ...." No, lawyers should sell their clients out and disparage them publicly. Good point. And also, let me know the last time you had a discussion with Johnnie Cochran or Lee Bailey about OJ.

PS -- did the thought ever go through your brain that Dave could have simply slabbed the Goudey at SGC any time he wanted? And he didn't?

[Kawika]

[pwilk17]

You still have not answered the question, perhaps you are unable to.

I do not like anything I have heard about Mastro etc. - it seems they have done some dishonest and unethcial things and I do not like it. I think it is digusting. However, it also appears that Forman is not a complete angel either and that is what I am pointing out. You can do all the mudslinging you want about Mastro etc. - I think it is great and well deserved. However, it is obvious that Forman has a conflict of interest and has had for some time. I think it is deplorable that he has been profiting from the sale of cards and memoribilia in the position that he is in - it is wrong. There is also a rumour that there is new management at his company and that these people have also profited from selling items (autographs) that they were in fact authenticating and also determinging the profits of others (by not authenticating) - that is disgusting. Forman at one time was obviously involved in major dealings with Mastro (so much so that he was able to get items without paying for them in the hundreds of thousands). All I am pointing out is that your client is not an angel either.

[Ease]

LOL David

[calvindog]

Peter, you understand that I'm not Dave's conscience or personal biographer? Again, the example I provided should give you some comfort as to how Dave handles his valuable cards. I never said Dave was an angel and the lawsuit between Dave and Allen and Mastro did not involve any allegations of fraud against Dave.

And here's an idea: take your business to PSA if you're not comfortable with SGC. If you don't trust the graders and leadership and service at SGC -- go elsewhere.

And regarding your rumors, when you have something concrete say it. Or take it to court -- as I did with Allen and Mastro. And win -- as I did with Allen and Mastro.