Response to NY Daily News Article

[calvindog]

Scott, I'm a lawyer who is well-versed in the libel laws. Does it seem as if I'm just engaging in conjecture?

[wonkaticket]

I do find it odd that Doug would come here for support or too clear the air. The stuff with Mastro/Ketap is bad stuff and I’m sure it affected us all in one way or another regardless if we realize it or not. I would bet that if we really knew what went on over the past years behind closed doors our blood would boil.

I also find it a funny statement on human behavior and us as collectors. We all lined up to give Pat Chan the death penalty for faking some T206 overprints which pales in comparison to what Doug has been tied too factually or allegedly. Yet we say keep your chin up? I wonder if all the people that were taken advantage of over the years by Mastro and the crew have kept their chins up?

We post scammers eBay links to obvious reprints by the dozens and rant and rave, yet when real deal stuff stares us in the face we all say ho hum. Sometimes I don’t think Mastro and the guys are too blame

I really think we as collectors get what we deserve even when it’s staring us right in the face we all rush right back in with our bids and blinders on.

Unreal stuff…

Cheers,
John

[calvindog]

John, many in the hobby made plenty of money off of the fraud committed by Doug and Bill. And they'll do anything to avoid trashing these guys no matter how bad they are.

I'll make this offer to Doug, as he's much chattier on Net 54 than he ever was during the litigation: I'll put up the 400K he sued Dave for if he consents to a public polygraph examination wherein I'll ask him three questions about his fraud at Mastro and Legendary. If he denies the fraud and is judged truthful by the examiner he can keep the 400K and pay off his consigners. If he fails he loses nothing but whatever self-respect he still has. Which clearly is not much.

[mintacular]

factually or allegedly.--this part of your post might explain why there are different opinions being expressed here...

[scottglevy]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Scott, I'm a lawyer who is well-versed in the libel laws. Does it seem as if I'm just engaging in conjecture?

I'm guessing no. And certainly your 400k bet enforces this opinion. Care to share the details?

[glchen]

Actually, I have a side question after reading the article which is here:
Link

From the article, it says that Dave Forman is the president of SGC, and Doug says that he returned a sheet cut Goudey to Dave that was deemed trimmed/altered by PSA. Since Dave is president of SGC, isn't it a conflict of interest for him to get this card graded at SGC, especially if SGC ends up giving this card a high number grade?

Gary Chen

[wonkaticket]

There’s plenty of non alleged activity on file..one case in point.

Simple for me I watched the whole Nodgrass deal go down when I and other collectors brought it to the boards attention as well as Mastro and Doug.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...light=nodgrass

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...light=nodgrass

One thing was really telling for me in that moment. I had to say to myself…. “why would a world class defining company such as Mastro and senior officer (Doug) be involved in such an obvious fake and shady deal? “.

I mean what’s the best that comes out of it a few thousand dollar fake card sells? You burn an innocent collector who put trust in your organization. But worse you tarnish a multi-million dollar image over a few grand laughable and sad IMO.

One has to say to themselves if they would get caught up in something so petty what are they doing behind closed doors when real money is involved. Allegedly or not I think those are fair concerns.

Cheers,

John McDaniel

[Leon]

I am going back and putting names in every person's sig line that does not have one in there now, in this thread. If you remove it you will be suspended from the board for 1 month. Happy collecting!!

OH, the other alternative is to edit out ALL of your comments...See, we give you choices on Net54baseball.....