Is the 1914 Fatima T222 set impossible to complete?

[FrankWakefield]

Michael P, that is one fine card.

My point wasn't to not start collecting these great cards unless you get Henry. Just don't get confident that you will complete them until you have Henry in hand. Once you have him, then I think it becomes possible.

[Mrvintage]

How much does a john henry usually go for?

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by Mrvintage

How much does a john henry usually go for?

There are only 5 that I know of, so the prices have varied. $1K might be a benchmark.

Henry is very tough, but I wouldn't necessarily single him out. I think that any of the cards with a "13" or higher number in the lower left corner are equally scarce. For example, I've never seen a Schulte that wasn't in terrible condition. Lelivelt, L.Magee, Lobert, Austin, Morgan... those are all equally hard.

[JamesGallo]

Are these cards often trimmed. Most of the ones I got in a lot were either beat to hell or had a slight trim. Seeing that the Henry shown is trimmed, I wonder if there wasn't a press problem as my trimmed cards are short prints...

James G

[Beck6]

Long time reader, but I do not post here much. You happen to hit on a set I have started and really have enjoyed.

I always assumed trimming was common to accomodate for corners being broken off over time. The other theory I had was that people stored them in the old fatima tins and needed to shave them down a bit to fit for storage after they started to curl.

Great set and I would encourage anyone to start it. Don't let the short prints scare you away. The cards are beautiful and scans do not do them justice as they tend to enhance the creases. In hand these are some of the best looking cards that I own.

[ValKehl]

Hi Mike P.,
It was most kind of you to not out me in your post as being the dummy that traded you the Henry card that enabled you to complete your set! I guess I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time ("standing next to me in Ken's booth")! I knew Henry was a short-print, but had I known it was the toughest card in this set, I would have held out for both your first-born and second-born in our trade! I attribute my lack of T222 knowledge to one of the pitfalls of being a type collector, rather than a set collector! At least, I still have my T222 WaJo!

Seriously, I derive great satisfaction whenever I can help a really nice Net 54er like you with a tough card that is not very relevant to my collection. And, I shall be forever pleased with the WaJo you traded me for the Henry.
Best,
Val

[ls7plus]

You make a very good point, Val, with regard to set collectors. I collect stars and hall-of-famers, and look to these guys on this board who collect the sets that I am interested in obtaining individual players from for information, as they almost always know more about such cards than I do. Thanks especially to Exhibitman for his knowledge and contributions to my hunt for info on various exhibit cards I've been after!

Larry