Open Letter To Ted Taylor (TTA/Stat Authentic)

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

I just like to keep it short physically.

It makes it harder to read if you don't break it up...still though I agree wholeheartedly with what you have to say, but Ted Taylor as I suspect you already know will not be coming here to answer your questions.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

It makes it harder to read if you don't break it up...still though I agree wholeheartedly with what you have to say, but Ted Taylor as I suspect you already know will not be coming here to answer your questions.

My apologies guys. All fixed.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

My apologies guys. All fixed.

No need to conserve space on this forum...use as much as you need.

[barrysloate]

Actually, when people post really long paragraphs with no breaks it's really hard to read. It's a visual thing.

[Ringking]

With the items in CC auctions. How do you not know if they are the same items showing up over and over and over again?

They allow the seller to bid on their own items as they don't set reserves.

You really don't know if some of the Babe Ruth items showing up are not something that ran in the auciton last month, 6 months ago or even last year.

You sit behind your camera and bash every item they have, and just say, it's fake because this person says it's real.

What are your creds? Other then "you know autograhs"??

[slidekellyslide]

Ring King, post your full name on these posts or your going to find yourself banned very shortly.

[Leon]

Since RingKing didn't happen to read the board rules I just gave him a quick call and left a message. Until then here is his contact info...



Name: Ringking


My name, Cori Broswavic

champringking@yahoo.com

Phone number 317-xxx-xxxx

[steve B]

Yes, like bad pennies the items could be turning up again and again. Some are only similar to previous ones, and I suppose if I cared I could keep track.


The sellers are expressly allowed to bid on their own stuff? That's
A) Pretty stupid. Pay for your own item+ buyers commission, and get back the bid less the commission? So probably close to 40% to set your own reserve? Stupid. Next consignment, just send me $50 and keep the item at home.
B) It's shilling.
C)It's shilling.
D It's .... you get the idea- Maybe.
Shilling is illegal no matter what the reason. There are only a few times it;s allowable, and those usually involve the items not actually being yours.
Of course it's done often by having a friend bid, which is hard to prove, but still illegal.

I don't "know autographs" But a few minutes online finds examples of most. From very reputable sources. And usually they don't look much like CC items.
So either every museum and dealer around has been taken in by poor fakes, or the CC stuff is largely fake. I'll even omit the stuff that has certs that was signed by people that died years before the item existed. And still these non- expert eyes tell me that most of that stuff just looks wrong.

If you truly believe it's nearly all real my advice would be to buy as much of it as possible. Get a cert that might get some respect. And auction it for 10X as much. If you can prove that to someone money wouldn't even be a problem. There's still venture capital out there. If I thought it was real I'd be doing just that. (I don't, and I'm not)


Steve Birmingham

Originally Posted by Ringking

With the items in CC auctions. How do you not know if they are the same items showing up over and over and over again?

They allow the seller to bid on their own items as they don't set reserves.

You really don't know if some of the Babe Ruth items showing up are not something that ran in the auciton last month, 6 months ago or even last year.

You sit behind your camera and bash every item they have, and just say, it's fake because this person says it's real.

What are your creds? Other then "you know autograhs"??

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Ringking

With the items in CC auctions. How do you not know if they are the same items showing up over and over and over again?

They allow the seller to bid on their own items as they don't set reserves.

You really don't know if some of the Babe Ruth items showing up are not something that ran in the auciton last month, 6 months ago or even last year.

You sit behind your camera and bash every item they have, and just say, it's fake because this person says it's real.

What are your creds? Other then "you know autograhs"??

You don't even have to "know autographs" to know they are selling junk.
Just follow a few of their auctions and any brain surgeon can figure out their scam.

[steveinphilly]

It’s unbelievable that Coach’s Corner is still at it, 12 years later. I randomly came across this thread and decided to see what CC currently has listed. Among this month’s treasures are a ball signed by Frank Sinatra, Bob Hope, Tony Bennett and Vin Scully; a check signed by Connie Mack and Chief Bender (leaving off his usual quotes around “Chief” because, well, it’s official) and made out to Jimmie Foxx, which he signed on the back; and a postcard signed by 15 of the 1911 Athletics including Connie Mack and the entire $100,000 infield. And all can be had for less than $100! Also at least two Picasso signed original pieces, a Degas, a Basquiat, a George Washington cut, multiple signed Beatles records, Bronco Nagurski game worn cleats with JSA certification (unfortunately the certificate number is hidden in the sole picture), and about 700 other treasures. And if you want to see an item attracting unusual bidding, check out lot 635: “(8) Baseball cubes, EX!” With no picture, that has somehow attracted 12 bids and is up to $48.

This auction is basically the equivalent of an insane person pleasuring himself in public so regularly and for so many years that people just no longer walk that way and the police have decided it’s no longer a crime.