Beware Carterscards2006

[Peter_Spaeth]

Bill, if you click on "replies" or "views" to the top of the first thread on the main page, it will bring up all the greatest hits.

[Rich Klein]

And we're 90 percent of the way to 500 --- I'm looking forward to Mother's Day to face Stu Miller

Rich

[Carterscards2006]

A few of our customers wanted to know how ebay would rule on this case so here is the update:


Hi carterscards2006,
eBay Customer Support has reviewed the case and made a final decision.

We decided not to issue the buyer a refund. You don't need to do anything else for this case. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed. This case is closed.

Decision:
This case has been decided in your favor. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed.


Hopefully this ends this circus. Thank you!

[T205]

Very intresting. I am glad that this is now over no matter what the "end" result was. Perhaps this thread can die now.

[quinnsryche]

Originally Posted by T205

Very intresting. I am glad that this is now over no matter what the "end" result was. Perhaps this thread can die now.

I highly doubt the outcome will be the death of this thread!

[wake.up.the.echoes]

This thread is a zombie.

[bh3443]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

I highly doubt the outcome will be the death of this thread!

Tony is right! I bet this thread grows even more.

[barrysloate]

I say 500 posts is a lock.

[bbeck]

I must have missed something in the 500 + posts. Was the card actually removed from the GAI holder? Paypal never sides with the seller, it must be an aberration. Next thing you know ebay will allow sellers to leave negative feedback for bidders who never pay.

[vintagecpa]

I would compare this victory to a NFL football team winning their opening regular season game, but then losing their all-star QB to torn ACL during the game.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by vintagecpa

I would compare this victory to a NFL football team winning their opening regular season game, but then losing their all-star QB to torn ACL during the game.

Patriots in 2008! GQ coverboy Tom Brady went down in the first game of the season, which they won. Rookie backup Matt Cassel led them to an 11-5 record on the season, but they didn't make the playoffs.

[quinnsryche]

Originally Posted by Carterscards2006

A few of our customers wanted to know how ebay would rule on this case so here is the update:


Hi carterscards2006,
eBay Customer Support has reviewed the case and made a final decision.

We decided not to issue the buyer a refund. You don't need to do anything else for this case. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed. This case is closed.

Decision:
This case has been decided in your favor. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed.

Hopefully this ends this circus. Thank you!

Congratulations. Finally, ebay got one right.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

Congratulations. Finally, ebay got one right.

I agree. The shill bidding, criminal past and everything else aside (that has nothing to do with this particular case), the seller didn't do anything wrong. However, I do believe he should have communicated with the buyer and hopefully has learned a lesson here.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Carterscards2006

A few of our customers wanted to know how ebay would rule on this case so here is the update:


Hi carterscards2006,
eBay Customer Support has reviewed the case and made a final decision.

We decided not to issue the buyer a refund. You don't need to do anything else for this case. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed. This case is closed.

Decision:
This case has been decided in your favor. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed.


Hopefully this ends this circus. Thank you!

Win the battle. Lose the war.

I have expressed no opinion in this thread, as to which side was correct. I will say, however, that a seller who does not respond to inquiries from a customer will never get any of my business.

Paul, your position in this matter, added to your criminal past, has probably cost you far more than it was worth.

Congrats.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Win the battle. Lose the war.

I have expressed no opinion in this thread, as to which side was correct. I will say, however, that a seller who does not respond to inquiries from a customer will never get any of my business.

Paul, your position in this matter, added to your criminal past, has probably cost you far more than it was worth.

Congrats.

Yeap, a phyrric victory if ever there was one.

[barrysloate]

A Pyrrhic victory.

Peter doesn't mind if I correct his spelling. That is a tough word indeed.

[Peter_Spaeth]

ouch!!
did I spell "embezzlement" right?

[Anthony S.]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

A Pyrrhic victory.

Peter doesn't mind if I correct his spelling. That is a tough word indeed.

Would slugging someone with glass bakeware be considered a Pyrex Victory?

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Carterscards2006

A few of our customers wanted to know how ebay would rule on this case so here is the update:


Hi carterscards2006,
eBay Customer Support has reviewed the case and made a final decision.

We decided not to issue the buyer a refund. You don't need to do anything else for this case. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed. This case is closed.

Decision:
This case has been decided in your favor. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed.


Hopefully this ends this circus. Thank you!

I am sure the OP will chime in at some point

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Carterscards2006

A few of our customers wanted to know how ebay would rule on this case so here is the update:


Hi carterscards2006,
eBay Customer Support has reviewed the case and made a final decision.

We decided not to issue the buyer a refund. You don't need to do anything else for this case. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed. This case is closed.

Decision:
This case has been decided in your favor. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed.


Hopefully this ends this circus. Thank you!

Congratulations?

[jezzeaepi]

Originally Posted by Carterscards2006

A few of our customers wanted to know how ebay would rule on this case so here is the update:


Hi carterscards2006,
eBay Customer Support has reviewed the case and made a final decision.

We decided not to issue the buyer a refund. You don't need to do anything else for this case. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed. This case is closed.

Decision:
This case has been decided in your favor. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed.


Hopefully this ends this circus. Thank you!

Actually you still lose because Id bet about half the people on this thread will never use your services again. PR > profit from one sale.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jezzeaepi

Actually you still lose because Id bet about half the people on this thread will never use your services again. PR > profit from one sale.

Looking at his sales from the past 15 days, I don't think he's too concerned about that. Seller hasn't missed a beat.

[jezzeaepi]

Sure hes still going to have business, but it will be less then it could have been if he had handeled this with more class. Im not saying he alienated everyone, but Id say the opinions are split about 50/50 on this thread. In terms of value creation or value destruction, he destroyed future value by alienating customers.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jezzeaepi

Sure hes still going to have business, but it will be less then it could have been if he had handeled this with more class. Im not saying he alienated everyone, but Id say the opinions are split about 50/50 on this thread. In terms of value creation or value destruction, he destroyed future value by alienating customers.

I strongly disagree. Look at the prices he realized in his past auction and they're all in line with VCP. Sure, he probably alienated some buyers, but does he really care as long as his sales are around VCP average?

For example, If he has a card with a VCP of $500, it's still going to sell for about that price no matter how many bidders the auction has. Does he care if he has 10 bidders or 20 bidders as long as the result is still the same?

In other words, if you have a small business and your goal is $10K a week in sales, do you care if you have 10 customers that each spend $1000, or 5 customers that each spend $2000? No, you care about meeting your goals and making a profit.

The bottom line is that it may have cost him some customers, but it didn't cost him any volume.

Edited to add: If anything, it cost Todd because I know for a fact that he's ended up on several seller's BBL.