1904 Allegheny Game Cards

[pgellis]

Thanks guys for derailing this post almost immediately after it got started. I was interested in hearing some stories and seeing some pictures about an interesting issue and this happens.

What are we getting paid per post around here?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by pgellis

Thanks guys for derailing this post almost immediately after it got started. I was interested in hearing some stories and seeing some pictures about an interesting issue and this happens.

What are we getting paid per post around here?

Hey, at least I posted one and gave some insight? Sorry for derailing the thread. I think the guys were just having some fun.

Anyone else with some Allegheny cards? They are neat and I do like them. I think I have owned about 3-4 over the years. The prices seem to have fallen on them lately, at least for commons. Another interesting tidbit. A lot of them, if not most, have a tiny pen mark (dot) on the back, near the top of the card. It is literally one dot. You can see it on the one I posted. Many times a grading company will miss that and not count off for it the way they should. That is the reason, not the red on front which is normal for them as they were stacked and had some ink transfer, for the lower grade. regards

[barrysloate]

I've had a few over the years, including (I think) the Roger Bresnahan, which I believe is his rookie card, as are most in the set.

[DanP]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I've had a few over the years, including (I think) the Roger Bresnahan, which I believe is his rookie card, as are most in the set.

I'm still kicking myself for missing his RC in your auction a few years back! I also think it is Mordecai Brown's RC. I'm hoping they get re-sold at auction in the next 20 years!!

Dan

[barrysloate]

Dan- I just checked and it was a Bresnahan in a GAI 8 holder (no wisecracks please). It sold in 2008 for $4821. What would it be worth today?

[DanP]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Dan- I just checked and it was a Bresnahan in a GAI 8 holder (no wisecracks please). It sold in 2008 for $4821. What would it be worth today?

If it was being sold in FL or NV about 70% less, the rest of the country about 30% less. Ahh....wrong investment class!!

Actually I'm not convinced it would sell for much more today. I'd love to find out!! Dan

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by pgellis

Thanks guys for derailing this post almost immediately after it got started. I was interested in hearing some stories and seeing some pictures about an interesting issue and this happens.

What are we getting paid per post around here?

Phil, the set sold in the 1991 Sotheby's Copeland sale for $26,400. I am not 100% sure, but I think that Lipset is the one who orginally found the set and sold it to Copeland. I recall seeing some sort of blurb about it in his Old Judge newsletter.

I do not remember who bought the set, but it was kept together and then consigned to The Best of Yesterday, who sold it at their live auction at the 1995 National Convention in St. Louis. From what I remember, it went for quite a bit less than in the Copeland sale - $10,000 or so out the door.

It was then broken up (Terry Knouse?) and the cards were scattered througout the hobby. Each card is still one of a kind.

I am sure that I butchered the story somewhere along the line, so please so not hesitate to correct me.

[barrysloate]

10K for the whole set is highway robbery. The Wagner alone (is there a Wagner, or is Matty the best card?) would be worth that.

[pgellis]

Thanks guys for getting us back on track this morning. I love hearing the input from you guys. This is really quite a unique and fascinating set in my mind. Barry's question leads to another.

Does anyone know if there is a checklist out there for this set?

[Baseball Rarities]

I am sure that the Standard Catalog has a complete checklist.

[paul]

I never tire of posting this one.

[paul]

That was aweful small. Let me try again.

[Andy Baran]

I owned the Alleghany Brown card for a number of years. Originally bought it from Terry Knouse, and eventually sold it to Hal Lewis when I liquidated my baseball card collection. Not sure what ever happened to it.

[ls7plus]

I think that whoever bought the Matty for $8283 from Goodwin will be very happy with its value appreciation if they hold it for a decade or so. Incredibly rare and significant (it is Matty, after all) is just going to be a great combo over time!

Larry

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

10K for the whole set is highway robbery. The Wagner alone (is there a Wagner, or is Matty the best card?) would be worth that.

Barry Good call.
The Matty is a PSA-6
and sold via REA in May of 08 for $10,575
and sold again in May '09 via Goodwin at $8,283

[triwak]

Love that Selee card, Paul! Drool....

[uffda51]

I bought a couple commons from Clay Hill at Sportscards+ at the National in about 2000. Don't have them any more.

[ksfarmboy]

Found this checklist. Has anybody seen one of the team cards? I never knew there was that many different ones let alone team cards. Very interesting issue.

http://www.cards-baseball.com/baseba...y-card-company