Beware Carterscards2006

[T206DK]

I've had dealings with Carterscards on ebay and have bought some nice T206's from them. I think a couple of times I found some suspicious bidding patterns by low feedback bidders, thats all.
I can't say technically or legally who is in the right or wrong here. i think as a reputable seller, Carterscards might want to think about refunding the buyers money. I personally feel he is not obligated to do so. When you buy a graded card from some TPG's you are taking the same chance as buying it raw.
I had a similar experience back in 2007 with GAI graded N172's. I bought a couple off of a reputable ebayer and sent them to PSA to be crossed over. Both came back as having been altered. I informed the seller and told him I was now pretty sure the cards had been re-backed. He refunded my money , and got ahold of other sellers that had bought cards from this "find" and told them they may have re-backed cards and that he would refund their $$ as well. I don't know if that seller is a member here or not, but he is an example of one of the good guys in the hobby.

[barrysloate]

This thread really is turning into a lulu.

I know the knee jerk reaction is that the buyer is always right and the seller should offer a refund no questions asked. But there are a lot of very good sellers out there who may be taken advantage of by rogue buyers who are looking to make a quick buck at the seller's expense.

If I knew I could return any card I wanted within 7 days, couldn't I buy an entire dealer's inventory, spend six days selling as many cards as I am able for a profit, and then return all the unsold ones on the seventh day? My point is that buyers can be bad too. Instead of a blanket statement, let me suggest that each situation should be looked at before a decision is made. Let's be fair to both buyers and sellers.

And of course I am not saying that Todd is wrong here. Frankly, I place 100% of the blame on GAI. Todd bought a card, Carter's sold a card. If GAI did their job right this thread wouldn't have even begun.

[HBroll]

But Barry how do you know GAI was wrong? Maybe SGC got it wrong. If the card was sent to PSA & Beckett and they all deemed it trimmed then I would say SGC was correct but right now who knows who got it right.

[barrysloate]

I know Howard, I've never seen the card in person. But looking at the scan, and listening to Todd's description of it, I'm going to go with the idea that SGC got it right. Just a hunch.

[HBroll]

But a hunch won't win in court.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by HBroll

But a hunch won't win in court.

No, it won't win in court. It's just an opinion for the chatboard.

[CMIZ5290]

Guys- there is one way to look at this. A hundred years from now, who will give a @#$%?

[bobbyw8469]

Barry...I respect SGC (for the most part)....do realize that they make mistakes....I can show roughly 50 cracked slabs from an entire set that I had graded that they totally blew out of the water. If I had known they were unfamiliar with the issue, I never would have subbed the entire set with them to begin with!