Beware Carterscards2006

[chaddurbin]

peter you can't prove to us he shill bids unless you have photo proof of the seller sitting at his laptop with the shill bidder's account on his desktop...just like todd can't prove the card is trimmed unless he was there to witness it. we will take nothing less

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

peter you can't prove to us he shill bids unless you have photo proof of the seller sitting at his laptop with the shill bidder's account on his desktop...just like todd can't prove the card is trimmed unless he was there to witness it. we will take nothing less

No circumstantial evidence in your court, eh?

Just something to chew on here gentlemen that are siding with a.........whats the word I am looking for...........

Feel free to help me with the word I am looking for guys


http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/4067361

[bobbyw8469]

Noone said anything about this, so I will post it AGAIN. Please read article #17. Robert Edwards Auctions, one of the best in the business!! I am sorry, but someone has to draw the line somewhere.....

[BBSD]

Kevin get's my point, hey pup mind your own business. Get a life loser.

Originally Posted by BBSD

Kevin get's my point, hey pup mind your own business. Get a life loser.

It is my business when you come on here and start messing with people that have been here probably longer than your IQ is high. Bet you had to look up what dyslexia meant didn't you

[Fred]

WOW!

This thread has really moved along... for those that don't want to read the whole thing this is a very general summary:

Higher grade GAI Card that is mislabeled is purchased by someone that is not happy that SGC has deemed the card is trimmed. Buyer would like a refund (over $1K) for the ebay purchase. The seller clearly indicated NO RETURNS ACCEPTED in the ebay item description. Buyer also indicated the following:

"not really looking for sympathy here and may not get any--just wanted to vent. Also thought you'd like to know a little about this seller if you were thinking of bidding on his auctions."

Opinions/observations that have been made:

- Some people say that the seller should refund the $$$.

- Others say the item description was clear and it was a TPG card that is encapsulated.

- Some posters have made claims that the seller shill bids and to a degree have substantiated the claim. I don't know what that has to do with the topic of a return but this was an evolutionary part of this topic.

- People have indicated that if the card would have crossed over to SGC at a higher grade the buyer would have been estatic and probably not have thought to send the seller more money because the card was valued more than the actual purchase price because of a higher grade.

- Some have said since the buyer was told the card is trimmed by a different TPG the seller wants out of the deal absed on a different opinion from another TPG. In this case some people believe that you just roll the dice when you buy a card encapsulated by a TPG. TPGs provide "their" subjective opinion about a card and if 4 different TPGs look at the card you could get 4 completely different opinions.

- People obviously have their opinions and there are many differing views on the topic. The discussion is getting a little heated - If it continues this thread is on its way to becoming ' "a train wreck of a thread". Something we haven't had to deal with for a while...

At least it hasn't turned into a total battle royale...

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Just something to chew on here gentlemen that are siding with a.........whats the word I am looking for...........

Feel free to help me with the word I am looking for guys


http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/4067361

please read link as it seems to have some interesting info in it. BBSD, just incase, I want to extend you the offer so you don's feel left out here. PM me your # and I will have my 5 yr old call you and read you the article. BTW what does the "SD' stand for? Since we know your initials are BB whats the SD? I have a BIG guess but it would be way to funny to post and I might get reprimanded for it.

[Jacklitsch]

"Anyways, I'm getting out of this thread for now, before I piss too many more people off."

Too late.

[quinnsryche]

Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but, shouldn't GAI be the one who pays for the card (if it's trimmed) and not the seller? I thought that's how it works.

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but, shouldn't GAI be the one who pays for the card (if it's trimmed) and not the seller? I thought that's how it works.

Since the GAI in question has been disolved they no longer have the responsibility.

[botn]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Just something to chew on here gentlemen that are siding with a.........whats the word I am looking for...........

Feel free to help me with the word I am looking for guys


http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/4067361

Terrific!!! Just what the hobby needs--another felon. Move over JP Cohen of Memory Lane you have company. Wonder if Paul told everyone he was in the mortgage business when he was in the slammer?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

peter you can't prove to us he shill bids unless you have photo proof of the seller sitting at his laptop with the shill bidder's account on his desktop...just like todd can't prove the card is trimmed unless he was there to witness it. we will take nothing less

I don't think anybody asked to prove shilling (unless I missed that part). It looks suspicious, but people can draw their own conclusions. The OP stated that he can prove the card is trimmed. I've simply asked him to do so. He can either prove it and shut up all of us "turds" or he popped off his big mouth. Which is it? Either way, I am done with this thread. He either proves it and I make one final post (my apology to him) or he doesn't prove it and shows himself a liar - for the second time.