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Old 02-16-2011, 08:07 AM
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So is it just one thing or a combination of things that scream fake? What exactly is it? I'm trying to educate myself as much as possibe so I really appreciate any input.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:10 AM
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I am not an expert by any means but I ask myself a simple question; statistically how likely is it that a cardbpoard or paper item has survived intact for 80 or so years?

What I mean by this is the following. A sign or poster this size was most likely meant to be nailed to a telephone or electric pole, pasted on the side of a building or wall or taped to a store window. This means MOST of them would have been destroyed by the weather or damaged in some other way. Then there is the paper drives of WW II. A baseball card would be easy to store but something large like this poster would take up more space thus a Mother would be mroe tempted to donate it to a paper drive.

Finally, the subject matter. Why is it always big or well known names that survive? Why is it that these things show up on eBay instead of a major auction?

Go look at ACOFIND, fourducks, style_quest and myjunk66. These sellers on eBay ALWAYS have some type of big name poster or sign for sale (Winchester, Remington, Harley Davidson, Indian, Coke, Pepsi, Mt Dew, Dr. Pepper, etc). It is funny how they have a constant stream of large paper or cardboard items of various subjects, that are at least 50 years old and in similiar condition. Then, when you do an internet search on that particular item, you see they have been reproduced or they are a fantasy piece.

David
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:07 AM
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"Fast and cheap" was the general rule for production of outdoor signs. That usually mean using stock design signs, where the images and hype were done by the tour organizer. The local printer would add the location, date and ticket information in a blank space specifically left for that information. In this case, the entire design is customized to Flint...that would be a red flag.

The tour dates couldn't be finalized until the World Series ended. The tour started on the 10th. In Flint, the goal would have been to get the signs up as fast as possible to alert the locals. The photo of the pair in their special uniforms was obviously not taken in a studio ahead of the tour; it was taken after it began. That raises two issues: (1) why wait for photos and (2) why select a photo with a third person pictured? Doesn't make sense.

Finally, if a sign is weatherbeaten, it isn't likely to have neat pinholes in the corners. Signs were usually nailed up to survive the elements, and when removed the holes would be far more ragged than pinholes. Rips and tears would be more typical in exposed posters like this.

Another of those "too good to be true" situations.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:44 PM
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Poor Flint. First it's home to the Joe Doyle counterfeiter, then the Frankenpennant forger, and now this.

At least everything else is going well there.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:17 PM
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Poor Flint. First it's home to the Joe Doyle counterfeiter, then the Frankenpennant forger, and now this.

At least everything else is going well there.
I almost spit out my gum I laughed so hard......Thanks for it LOL
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Old 02-16-2011, 04:52 PM
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I almost spit out my gum I laughed so hard......Thanks for it LOL
bottom line it is fake. I emailed the guy stating that and to my amazement i got no response. shocking.
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