1970 Dayton Daily News M137

[JLange]

Bob, I understand your explanation, and I accept that there are constraints on manpower, pagecount, etc., and I even accept that the catalog needs to find a way to be profitable. That said, I have always thought of the "Big Book" as THE Authority on Baseball Cards, NON-Card Baseball items, and a bunch of other stuff Baseball related. I can't stand to see the decisions to wack one set over another. As far as I'm concerned, if an item was meant to be cut out, saved, and collected, then it should be catalogued. At this point, I would be much more interested in a wikipedia approach where anyone can catalog what they have found, and experts among us can be the gatekeepers of this information. I think people have really come to rely on the information in the Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards as authoritative and comprehensive, or at least striving to be, and when you see sets left out, taken out, or only periodically rotated in, that turns the "Big Book" into just another book. I may be preaching to the choir, and I really respect the fact that you personnaly give life to a lot of these sets in your blog posts and catalog updates where able, but overall I see this as a frustrating topic.

[David W]

Were there variations of these "cards"?

I ask, because a few weeks back Ebay seller Tampabaycards had 2 different Don Gullett cards, both from 1970 I think.

The biography was different and the stats were different.

They can be tough to find, I've been looking for Lou Brock for a long time.

Also, this link says there is a #318 Willie Smith that is uncatalogued.

[ALR-bishop]

Good post Jason. It would make me sad to see the Big Book get smaller as well

[Cliff Bowman]

I am nearly certain that the 1970 Dayton Daily News Bubble-Gumless baseball series was repeated in 1971 with the same players and numbers but with new photos and updated bios. The Ebay seller Tampa Bay Cards has several on Ebay now. Some have 1969 stats, which would make them 1970, and some have 1970 stats, which would make them 1971. The aforementioned two different Don Gullett cards are a 1970 version and a 1971 version, they are the same number but have different photos and different bios. I have a 1970 Ernie Banks and a 1971 Ernie Banks. Same numbers, but different photos and different bios.

[Cliff Bowman]

As usual, I am twenty minutes late . After reading Mr. sschauer's blog I now see that only some of the players were repeated in 1971. Thank you for printing the detailed checklist.

[Bob Lemke]

Jason,

You have to remember that the Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards is NOT published by hobbyists. It is published by a multi-national media giant strictly on a for-profit basis. If it can't be made profitable at a certain level determined by the publisher, it will cease to be published.

In this era of declining demand for ink-on-paper hobby references, increased sales are not likely, so profitability has to come from controlling costs, i.e., the number of pages printed.

As editor of the vintage sections, it is my responsibility, based on my daily participation in this niche of the hobby, to determine how best to use the number of pages allocated to those sections.

[sschauer]

Originally Posted by David W

Were there variations of these "cards"?

I ask, because a few weeks back Ebay seller Tampabaycards had 2 different Don Gullett cards, both from 1970 I think.

The biography was different and the stats were different.

They can be tough to find, I've been looking for Lou Brock for a long time.

Also, this link says there is a #318 Willie Smith that is uncatalogued.

Yes there are variations I blogged about this set here http://uncatalogedbaseballcards.blog...aily-news.html The set was really 1970-1971 I went through the Dayton Daily archives and visually cataloged each card. Brock is a difficult one issued in 71 only replacing Richie Allen also #80.