Does common sense have a place in the world of professional grading?

[shimozukawa]

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[novakjr]

What's they're stance on the Exhibit 4 on 1 that had the coupon or whatever in the corner removed? Do they still grade the same as ones that were never cut off?

[glynparson]

With all the legitimate reasons to bash PSA I think this one is rather silly. The card is clearly labeled without coupon. they do the same with Redman tobacco. SGC does the same with Zeenuts. Don't see the problem. One is EX with the coupon one is ex without the coupon.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by glynparson

With all the legitimate reasons to bash PSA I think this one is rather silly. The card is clearly labeled without coupon. they do the same with Redman tobacco. SGC does the same with Zeenuts. Don't see the problem. One is EX with the coupon one is ex without the coupon.

From the original post:

"How can any grading company come up with the logic that deems both of these cards receive the same grade?"

The question wasn't intended to bash PSA.

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[steve B]

Originally Posted by shimozukawa

I think that is pretty much the opposite of what they're saying. Unless those issues were different from the mass issued versions (which is an indication of MY ignorance), they couldn't be graded.



Umm... no. If you just sent in the bottom half of all of the cards, you wouldn't win. The cards needed to be redeemed in full pieces. As such, this would not count as a "tab" type of card, in my opinion.

Their example was a 79 Gretzky - cut from a sheet wouldn't be graded since the card wasn't issued in an uncut sheet form. They don't mention any requirement of differences. The 70's team card sheets were on different cardboard sometimes, but not always. The magazine panels are 6 card panels taken from regualr sheets as far as I know. The 83 set was issued in uncut sheets with no differences at all. I still have the sheet I bought and the huge wrapper, a giant cello tube.

I don't actually consider the Millers as tabbed cards either, but the factory did remove the offer portion just as a consumer would remove a tab.

I do think that a card without the tab is trimmed. Just as a cancelled R300 is trimmed.

The distinction of with/without tab seems to be a decent compromise though, especially for sets that usually have the tabs cut off.

SGC does odd things too, the Topps Allen and Ginter mini cards with autographs or bits of wood or cloth come enclosed in another full size card with windows in it. (And a hole so you can touch the cloth swatch )
SGC won't grade these as issued, they have to be removed from the outer card. Which makes nearly no sense whatsoever.

Steve B

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