T206: Show us your "Marks"

[T206Collector]

I guess the only way I could relate would be if one of my signed T206s was also a Howe McCormick-stamped card. That'd be the only way I wouldn't be able to send it on to Ed...

[2dueces]

Eric, I own the Chesbro and Griffith portraits plus Mattern portrait and Engle batting. One clearly lists his address as 1318 Mosby St. So far only one that has a 150 Piedmont stamp has surfaced. ( I'm sure that can be easily dispelled with all the collectors here). All the rest seen are 350 or 350-460 series Piedmont. Now here is where my memory gets a bit fuzzy as I did the research 5 years ago and had a memory back then. He either lived in Portland or Seattle and was 12 years old in 1911. My thoughts are someone in the family smoked piedmonts, young F.F. saw the Chesbro 150 in a box on dad's dresser from 1909 and got the bug and started saving by the time the 350's were printed. Pack or 2 a day habit and young F.F. amassed a couple hundred quickly. Maybe stamping them so buddy's could get together and admire each others collections without mixing them up. Of course I have no way of proving this but that's the story I like to believe when I look at them. I believe there are 100's of his cards out there. He did live a long life so I don't think he was the one puffing away on the cancer sticks.

[t206hound]

I have scans of seven P150s: Chesbro, Cicotte, Hahn, Shaw, Jacklitsch, Overall (portrait) and Stone. I also have an Old Mill Fiene scan that appears to have a partial baker stamp.

A quick google search only comes up with only one 1318 mosby street (Richmond VA)... How did you determine west coast?

Originally Posted by 2dueces

Eric, I own the Chesbro and Griffith portraits plus Mattern portrait and Engle batting. One clearly lists his address as 1318 Mosby St. So far only one that has a 150 Piedmont stamp has surfaced. ( I'm sure that can be easily dispelled with all the collectors here). All the rest seen are 350 or 350-460 series Piedmont. Now here is where my memory gets a bit fuzzy as I did the research 5 years ago and had a memory back then. He either lived in Portland or Seattle and was 12 years old in 1911. My thoughts are someone in the family smoked piedmonts, young F.F. saw the Chesbro 150 in a box on dad's dresser from 1909 and got the bug and started saving by the time the 350's were printed. Pack or 2 a day habit and young F.F. amassed a couple hundred quickly. Maybe stamping them so buddy's could get together and admire each others collections without mixing them up. Of course I have no way of proving this but that's the story I like to believe when I look at them. I believe there are 100's of his cards out there. He did live a long life so I don't think he was the one puffing away on the cancer sticks.

[2dueces]

Eric, Well that shoots the 150 theory down the drain. Honestly, I cannot remember why I thought West Coast. Like I said, my memory at this time is not what it was 5 years ago. I know I tracked him down and wish I would have wrote it all down. It's interesting to see you have a non Piedmont. Maybe he did a little swapping? I'm more than happy to be proved wrong about F.F. As a matter of fact, I'd be really happy to know the whole truth. I find his collection fascinating as our other collector finds the McCormick just as interesting. Anything anyone can add I'm all ears.

[sb1]

Originally Posted by 2dueces

Eric, I own the Chesbro and Griffith portraits plus Mattern portrait and Engle batting. One clearly lists his address as 1318 Mosby St. So far only one that has a 150 Piedmont stamp has surfaced. ( I'm sure that can be easily dispelled with all the collectors here). All the rest seen are 350 or 350-460 series Piedmont. Now here is where my memory gets a bit fuzzy as I did the research 5 years ago and had a memory back then. He either lived in Portland or Seattle and was 12 years old in 1911. My thoughts are someone in the family smoked piedmonts, young F.F. saw the Chesbro 150 in a box on dad's dresser from 1909 and got the bug and started saving by the time the 350's were printed. Pack or 2 a day habit and young F.F. amassed a couple hundred quickly. Maybe stamping them so buddy's could get together and admire each others collections without mixing them up. Of course I have no way of proving this but that's the story I like to believe when I look at them. I believe there are 100's of his cards out there. He did live a long life so I don't think he was the one puffing away on the cancer sticks.

Joe and others,

I did a little checking on F.F. Baker, he was born Frederick Frank Baker Jan 25 1903 and died November of 1973 in Richmond, Virginia. It appears he lived in the Richmond area his entire life. He and his family are at 1318 Mosby in 1930, prior to 1920 it was known as Mechanicsville Turnpike, but the house number was still 1318. His father owned a grocery store in 1910 and 1920 according to census data, presumably it may have been at the same location. Thus he probably had easy access to cigarette cards from the customers.

One of these two buildings is the store, I am pretty sure it's the gray two story.

one.http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&cl...ed=0CB8Q8gEwAA

[dog*dirt]

Very nice work on the research. Looks like a nice neighborhood.

Originally Posted by sb1

Joe and others,

I did a little checking on F.F. Baker, he was born Frederick Frank Baker Jan 25 1903 and died November of 1973 in Richmond, Virginia. It appears he lived in the Richmond area his entire life. He and his family are at 1318 Mosby in 1930, prior to 1920 it was known as Mechanicsville Turnpike, but the house number was still 1318. His father owned a grocery store in 1910 and 1920 according to census data, presumably it may have been at the same location. Thus he probably had easy access to cigarette cards from the customers.

One of these two buildings is the store, I am pretty sure it's the gray two story.

one.http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&cl...ed=0CB8Q8gEwAA

[2dueces]

Great research. Thanks for the facts. My Portland theory was debunked in an earlier thread. My memory as how I thought that eludes me but we did track him down to Virginia. I never did know his full name or that his family owned a grocery store. Young Fredrick sure did have access to a steady supply of T206's. Can we see him standing at the counter as customers bought packs and asking for the card? Or maybe dad told his customers his son was a collector. What a great story. Maybe someday as Paul Harvey might have said, I'll know the rest of the story. Still hunting more for the collection.

[Vintagecatcher]

Here's one on a 1910 Obak back:


Patrick

[alsup2311]

[atx840]

There is a matching Heinie Wagner owned by a board member. Hoping to pick it up one day.

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[sandmountainslim]

Just bought this one "John H Maher"

[cfc1909]

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[2dueces]

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher

Here's one on a 1910 Obak back:


Patrick

I just traded a T206 with Russell's stamp on it to another collector for a baker stamp. Seems Russell collector more than just one issue.

[2dueces]

I also have, had a Russell W Seward stamped T206. I just traded it for another F.F. Baker stamped back. So my collection of Bakers has grown to 9 from 4 in 3 days thanks to 3 different board members. Isn't thus little group of nerds that collect pictures of dead men a great little community? I thank everyone for looking out for Baker stamps. Maybe some day I can put most of his collection back together 100 years after he stamped them as his. Pretty cool if you asked me, but I'm easily amused.