Great thread, what about most under rated pre-war player?

[Fred]

I love it when this thread shows up. The 19th Century players are represented, here are a few that didn't get a mention:

Count Mullane - would have probably won 300 games if he wasn't kicked out for a year.

Bobby Mathews - 297 career wins. Probably would have stuck around if he knew three Ws would have meant something.

Bob Caruthers - Third highest winning percentage for a pitcher with over 200Wins.

George Van Haltren - Lifetime .316 BA, 11 x 100 runs scored in a season, 583 lieftime SBs. Over 1000 RBIs over 1600 Runs.

Tip O'Neill - aruguably one of the most dominating statistical seasons in 1887 when he led the league in R, RBI, H, 2B, 3B, HR, BA, Slg%, TBs. Also has a career .326 liefetime BA. I guess hitting .435 one year helps that out.

[SteveMitchell]

Thank you, Kenny Cole, for a vigorous and fact-based defense of the late, great Cecil Travis. I think I was the one who first brought up Cecil Travis in this thread and must say that Kenny's arguments have been flawless. Thanks again, Kenny.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It's still not the same thing. The Negro Leaguers are not being credited for years they didn't play, based on assumptions about what they would have done in those years. They are being credited for their actual careers -- which of course included numerous unofficial games.