What is eBay's problem?

[shimozukawa]

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[Doug]

Originally Posted by shimozukawa

"Counterfeits and copyright violations"
"Potential trademark infringement"
"Unauthorized or counterfeit trading cards"

It's there... just not in the most logical location.

Well here's another one so I'm getting my practice in. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220714080611 There's so many of these damned things on eBay that they could hire me full time!

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by Doug

Well here's another one so I'm getting my practice in. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220714080611 There's so many of these damned things on eBay that they could hire me full time!

Here is a Q&A from this auction,

Q: hey the card looks great!!! A few questions before I bid.. Is it authentic? Where did you get it \? And why havent you authenticated it which would significantlly increase its value? Dec-23-10
A: hi my freind.this card is authentic,I show to one dealer i QUEENS NY, he offert me $2500 and he put it in this clear box as u see in photos. now, I made some research and this card may acceed the asking price. the card baught couple years ago along other card in flee market sheap.next stop authentification, thanks for advice.

Given that the seller is in Queens, it appears from the writing that he may a member of the Russian mafia in Brighton Beach. (I know it's in Brooklyn, but close enough.)

[Doug]

Originally Posted by kcohen

Here is a Q&A from this auction,

Q: hey the card looks great!!! A few questions before I bid.. Is it authentic? Where did you get it \? And why havent you authenticated it which would significantlly increase its value? Dec-23-10
A: hi my freind.this card is authentic,I show to one dealer i QUEENS NY, he offert me $2500 and he put it in this clear box as u see in photos. now, I made some research and this card may acceed the asking price. the card baught couple years ago along other card in flee market sheap.next stop authentification, thanks for advice.

Given that the seller is in Queens, it appears from the writing that he may a member of the Russian mafia in Brighton Beach. (I know it's in Brooklyn, but close enough.)

I wonder what "authentification" company he plans on using?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by shimozukawa

"Counterfeits and copyright violations"
"Potential trademark infringement"
"Unauthorized or counterfeit trading cards"

It's there... just not in the most logical location.

Also, you can report them to the DOJ or FBI:

http://www.cybercrime.gov/AppC-ReportingGuide.pdf

Counterfeit trading cards would constitute a violation of "Counterfeit Trademarks" and "Criminal Copyright Infringement" with the first carrying a $2mm penalty, and the latter requiring 10 instances of sale or production with a value of $2500 in a 180 day period.

Basically, you report them on the first one, then they say "but the trademark was on the original" and you have admission on the second one.

The FBI's internet crime division is somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 mos behind, or at least they were approximately a year ago. They also prioritize on a scale of value too. So, if someone is scamming with a $5 card, then a $1000 one would probably take precedence. The more effective way to do it would be to report it wherever the scammer lives, to their local authorities. I have been through this many times and that is probably the best way to do it. Also, if no one has actually been scammed then it is less of a crime, more likely a conspiracy to commit fraud, rather than fraud itself. I am not a lawyer or legal expert but have been through the process a few times. I doubt a full FBI investigation, with agents involved, would be started for less than a 6 figure issue. There are just so many bigger ones it just makes sense to go after them first. I am not making any definitive statements here, just relaying some past experiences. regards