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From Bill James' tome at 449
"Perhaps the most over-rated player in baseball history..... Sisler had a lower on-base percentage, in his career, than Fred McGriff, Alvin Davis, Earl Torgeson, Jack Clark, Mike Schmidt, Mark McGwire, or Gene Tenace. Or Ralph Kiner, or Elmer Valo, or a hundred other guys who didn't hit anywhere near .300."
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I agree with a lot of what Bill James says but every once in a while he writes some of the most assinine things (usually when he is focusing on one statistical category--in this case OBP). To say that Sisler is among the MOST OVERRATED ever is silly. The guy was a great ballplayer and was viewed as such during his playing career. He was essentially the Tony Gwynn or Ichiro of his era--hardly a bad thing! Most overrated is a ridiculous statement when it comes to Sisler.
-Rhett
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Agreed Rhett. And that awful obp is higher than Ichiro's career obp.
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Sisler's reputation is hurt if you disregard fielding, stolen bases, and all the things that speed and brains contribute to playing baseball.
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I also agree with all the Sisler defenders--clear-cut hall-of-famer.
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I don't think Bill James was suggesting Sisler is not a Hall of Famer, and neither am I, of course. I do think he may be overrated though in the sense of being considered one of the elite greats. Interestingly, on baseball reference.com, the three players most statistically similar are Heinie Manush, Zach Wheat and Kiki Cuyler. Not the creme de la creme.
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