Brooks Robinson proofs/test/FINAL negatives/etc

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

In his SCD article a year or so ago KO described the many variations of each 3D card in the standard set. I saved it but don't remember the exact number. Almost all the cards have at least two back versions and several have distinct front variations. I have a set but my only variation is the Maloney dugout or no dugout versions.

Dave...you need to kidnap Woody Gelman before it is too late and hold him until he tells you all he knows. ( For any internet police who may be watching I am only kidding.... and know Dave to be a person of sound mind....well mostly )

Al-I am in the middle of some heavily researched stuff at the moment regarding not Gelman but the Shorin's. Some of it is going to be published in the Wrapper's next issue (#257) and some of it will be posted on my blog after that. If that's not enough, I am working on a guide to the early Topps cards of 1948-51. That last project will be where I dig into Gelman's particulars hopefully.

As for the Shorin family, I found a ton of new information on them over the past month and have a newfound respect for their business acumen to say the least!

As for sound mind, after that Punchouts post, I am not so sure....

[Mark70Z]

toppcat - is Wrapper's concerning the collection of "wrappers", i.e. baseball, football, etc.? Sounds like you do a lot of research into this type of stuff; since I'm a newbie, can you get me up to speed on what you collect and what type of research you do? (oh...and maybe clue me in on your blog; sounds like a very interesting read)

[ALR-bishop]

Mark---see the link 3 posts above

[Mark70Z]

Al - since that particular post I've been reading w/in this area (I'm not sure I should of started, because now I can't stop! Is this what toppcat was talking about when he mentioned "Wrapper's" and his blog? I assume these are two different areas where he is documenting.

[ALR-bishop]

Mark---Dave can speak for himself but I think he is doing an article for Wrapper magazine...if you google that you will find their web site. His Topps blog referenced above is my "gospel" for info on regular, insert and test Topps issues.

[toppcat]

Hi Mark:

I've been tracking all the various oddities produced by Topps from the beginning until about 1980, although I am more and more focusing on the pre 1972 stuff and the corporate history.

The Wrapper is indeed a great little magazine published by Les Davis that has been going for over thirty years. Here is their link where you can order a sample copy; it's pretty much my favorite hobby publication:
http://www.thewrappermagazine.com/

My Wrapper piece is on the origins of Topps and their predecessor companies. It contains a lot of new information about the Shorin family and debunks many of the commonly told anecdotes that are all over the web concerning the early days.

I collect type examples of all Topps cards thru 1980 but as noted above I may scale this back to pre-72. I've pretty much put together all the Topps baseball sets I care to at this point as well, though it's only a short run from 67-75. I also collect old Brooklyn Dodgers cards and am working on a T206 set plus a couple odds and ends.

You should never listen to what Al says by the way

[Mark70Z]

Dave - If you do ever go pre-72..."remember" me for all your '72-'78 Brooksie items if you depart w/them

WoW! I'm sure there's a tremendous amount of research involved in locating the "true" history of these companies. Is most of the information from a first hand source, or is it from secondary, and/or from reading documents from the past?

You gotta listen to AL!