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Old 01-06-2011, 03:42 PM
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Hey Guys - lets address the Harry Wright Telegram - First JSA took over 30 days to give the ok on the auto - Jimmy Spence came to my shop and spent the whole day working on my stuff - he then told me he was taking a box of auto's with him - JUST TO MAKE SURE - The Harry Wright Telegram was one of them. I clearly saw the auto was much different the the body of the telegram - and if you take the time to google Telegrams, it was common practice in the 90's for the western union person to either have you write it out yourself - or - sign it as to agree the information to be correct. Jimmy stands by his findings that the auto is correct and different then the paragraph above the auto. I don't by any means put myself out there as an expert - but I do take every measure to make sure what I sell is true - can we all make mistakes - of course - but this autograph is real. It's ashame a few of you scared CS autions and we pulled the item.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:51 PM
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Hey Guys - lets address the Harry Wright Telegram - First JSA took over 30 days to give the ok on the auto - Jimmy Spence came to my shop and spent the whole day working on my stuff - he then told me he was taking a box of auto's with him - JUST TO MAKE SURE - The Harry Wright Telegram was one of them. I clearly saw the auto was much different the the body of the telegram - and if you take the time to google Telegrams, it was common practice in the 90's for the western union person to either have you write it out yourself - or - sign it as to agree the information to be correct. Jimmy stands by his findings that the auto is correct and different then the paragraph above the auto. I don't by any means put myself out there as an expert - but I do take every measure to make sure what I sell is true - can we all make mistakes - of course - but this autograph is real. It's ashame a few of you scared CS autions and we pulled the item.
What about the fact that the accompanying envelope has the adressee's name on it? And that the telegraph seems to be marked "received"? Wasn't it also common practice to have the receiving telegraph operator write the message out?
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:26 PM
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Many times there were 2 copies and no it wasn't always common pratice for the receiving operator to write it out - lets be real - it's 2 sets of handwritting - look at the value of letters - slant - size - look at the T and G and compare to the body - also compare to similar Wright auto's - i have - Jim has and it's on point. Fact of the matter PSA/DNA also gave it a thumbs up and i could have ruined a piece of baseball history by cutting and mounting on a 3x5 - The debate can continue and I know everyone wants to say it's bad - it's popular to expound knowledge - but many staements in this blog are only assumptions without fact - while I respect each person - it's my opinion based on my experience and the professional knowledge and opinion of JSA - JIM SPENCE - I beleave this auto to be true -and i can't explain the receiving party or who wrote the body of the message - but i can say I did my best without destorying the telegram - So it's also noted i've been turned down on many other auto's Jimmy took with him. I went through similar agruments about grading cards.
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Both the content and the name are written in the exact same handwriting, that can clearly be seen...Keep in mind that it's also probably not an actual signature as it is more appropriately his name written so that it is perfectly legible to the people at the telegraph company. The first name does seem to fit his signature style as opposed to his handwriting though, maybe pointing to indecision as to whether or not he wanted to sign or script his name... He may or may not have even hand delivered it to the company himself. He possibly kept a small stack of slips and may have filled it out himself and had someone else do the footwork. I know if I was a busy guy, I'd have probably done the same.

Now as to the received stamp...I imagine both the initial slip and the one on the receiving end would both have been marked as received. Basically after delivery, it would've been communicated back to the original office and stamped there as well...That way a person could confirm that(and when) their telegram was received..

Anyways, I also like that the President and General Manager was "Albert B. Chandler". Yeah, I know, it's definitely not Happy, but still somewhat interesting. Maybe a relative? Possibly his namesake?

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Hey - are you the Jimmy Spence police watch - what expert said it's bad - i've only shown this piece to 2 of the most reliable companies. Watch who your thowing stones at - one may hit you.
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Hey - are you the Jimmy Spence police watch - what expert said it's bad - i've only shown this piece to 2 of the most reliable companies. Watch who your thowing stones at - one may hit you.
Umm, Please help me understand how was that throwing stones, he merely pointed out it's on ebay? Something that is done all the time on this board.
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