Colgan Proofs/Squares

[ethicsprof]

very interesting thread!
the daubert looks like a reverse to me----still fascinating if it's the only one of the whole bunch with this difference.
i have only the one square camnitz and am wondering as you indicate just
how rare these square beauties are----have you done a survey to see what
folks have or is there data already out there regarding numbers of these squares. I like yourself have seen only a few in the last several years.

best,
barry

[DixieBaseball]

I received a few private emails regarding the post, and one individual has maybe a dozen or so duplicates and the 2009 SCD only list 49 known players but according to another person, there may be closer to 60-80 different players known or even more. (We need to start a Ted Z type checklist and keep it open-ended for future expansion) These Colgan Square's are definitely rare and perhaps my guess at this point is there is anywhere from 1-5 examples of any of the known players. (Purely a guess, until more research is done - I would bet it is more like 2-3 on average with some lucky folks out there owning maybe the only example) We need to shake some trees.

[oaks1912]

I'm aware of 4 cards in the set which have reversed images from their E-254 counterpart.... Bridwell, Brockett, Daubert, Parent ....... Another quirk of the set. The Pirates players are indicated as "Pittsburg" on the squares, even though they may indicate "Pittsburgh" on the E-254....

[DixieBaseball]

Thanks Mark for the input - (I believe the last we spoke was the Chicago National-Good to hear from you again!) That info is helpful. The quirk's are the only thing that separates this from the Colgan's images, so maybe this info will be helpful. I still scratch my head why Memphis ? If we ever find out who put these out, that question will get answered, I bet. Just strange that 1 southern league team was put out and 3 players from it. Maybe we should concentrate on the Memphis players not featured in the squares, but are featured in the E254's. Crandall, Wauner... ?? Was Wauner & Crandall released at different times from Babb, Bauerwald, and Daubert ?

[nolemmings]

According to Baseballreference.com, both Wauner (really Wanner) and Crandall did not join Memphis until 1910, which of course is consistent with the premise that these square cards are tied to 1909.

[FrankWakefield]

Not 'tied'. Such a card could be made this year, a century later.

[nolemmings]

It's a premise, Frank. Refute it.