Need Help ID-ing 1926 Yankees-Tigers Players

[jacksons]

My guess on the Yankee player is Joe Dugan.

Largish rump, legs with slender upper body and sloping shoulders.

The face in the negative would have more of the skeletal, sunken features of Braxtons face.

My first reaction on seeing the image without reading your post was "that's a cool action shot of Dugan".

Just one opinion though.

[timzcardz]

Thanks for the input.

I guess that I could see it as Dugan. If it is, then at best I am probably only going to be able to pin it to the players and not an actual game.

I look forward to others weighin in.

[Jaybird]

Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like the bag has to be either first or second base. You can see the outfielder in the distance and the grandstands behind. If this was third base the stands would be much closer.

Unless the image is reversed?

There's also an umpire on the play behind the runner so I'm guessing second base?


another guess, this looks like a tag-up. Ball hit up alley between 2nd and 3rd. Player on 2nd goes back to the base to avoid a double play? Or ball hit up first base line, player on first runs back for same reason.

[timzcardz]

Jaybird, First, thanks for the input. I don't agree, but it did make me re-evaluate why I thought this was at third base. If you see something wrong in my logic below, please point it out.



Quotes taken out of order . . .

Originally Posted by Jaybird

Unless the image is reversed?

I know that the image is not reversed. If the image was reversed "New York" across the front of the jersey would be backwards.

Originally Posted by Jaybird

Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like the bag has to be either first or second base. You can see the outfielder in the distance and the grandstands behind. If this was third base the stands would be much closer.

I don't believe that it can be first base.

I believe the axis of the photo taken is as indicated by the red arrow in the image below. This would be consistent with the angle of the stands in the background. Also, the player in the backgournd could be either the pitcher or first baseman.

As for the possibility of it being second base, for the stands to line up the way that they do with the base, I believe the axis of the photo would be as indicated by the yellow arrow in the image below, but would put the photographer quite a distance from the players to be off the playing field. The image, to me at least, looks like the photographer is closer to the players.

Originally Posted by Jaybird

There's also an umpire on the play behind the runner so I'm guessing second base?

The umpire behind the runner also threw me. Maybe something earlier in the play pulled umpire out of position? I am also not too familiar with the ways umpires used to position themselves. I am reminded though of the classic image of Cobb stealing 3rd with the umpire on the field behind them.

Originally Posted by Jaybird

another guess, this looks like a tag-up. Ball hit up alley between 2nd and 3rd. Player on 2nd goes back to the base to avoid a double play? Or ball hit up first base line, player on first runs back for same reason.

With the orientation of the photo (Based on the stands) if it was a tag-up back to 2nd, then we would be looking at the back of the runner. Same goes for tag-up back to 1st.

[jacksons]

I agree that this is 3rd base.

And I still think it's Dugan.

Can you make out what the script at the top of the image reads?

Very impressed with your research on this, Tim. Love that shot of Navin - where did you find it?

[jacksons]

Now I'm a little backwards on it, after having reversed the image.

First off, the text reads "????? ?? Navin Field 1926"

When a negative is reversed like this, is it it's true orientation then?

Isn't this the orientation the photographer sees when he scribbles his notes at the top of the negative, which would make this first base, a likely missed pick-off???

Anyone else?

[timzcardz]

Originally Posted by jacksons

Now I'm a little backwards on it, after having reversed the image.

First off, the text reads "????? ?? Navin Field 1926"

When a negative is reversed like this, is it it's true orientation then?

Isn't this the orientation the photographer sees when he scribbles his notes at the top of the negative, which would make this first base, a likely missed pick-off???

Anyone else?

No, Now the runner's jersey has "New York" backwards.

The actual image on the glass surface, is reversed. The writing is on the same side of the glass as the image.

[timzcardz]

At the top, not sure what the first word is, but continues "Navin Field 1926"

I'll pull the negative out tonight to see what the first word is.



As for the Navin Field image:

http://www.suntala.com/evodet.html
http://www.suntala.com/evol_images/navin_660w.jpg