Fro Joy Babe Ruth Cards

rdixon1208 · #1 12-29-2010, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kawika

It might be that SGC doesn't grade them anymore. Don't know. But it looks like they did at one time anyway. (I bought this already slabbed).

Oh OK....I was mistaken. I thought BVG was the only company that graded them.

fkw · #2 12-29-2010, 08:27 PM

If you can get a large clear scan of the card, they are not too hard to authenticate.

The images on the authentic examples are much clearer than the reprints which usually have contrast problems.

this is a good picture to use to compare (zoom)
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...?lotid=108654#

Batter67up · #3 12-29-2010, 09:01 PM

I think the reason PSA and SGC stopped grading them was because so many people were sending in reprints,the customers were getting upset that they were paying 25-30 dollars and getting a rejection of their cards. I have 3 fro-joys that are graded by BVG and PSA and they are easy to tell the difference from the reprints as Frank mentioned

Clutch-Hitter · #4 12-29-2010, 10:48 PM

I used to think the border on the reverse of a Fro-Joy should be a solid line, without the gaps at the corners. However, this PSA graded Fro Joy doesn't appear to have a solid border on the reverse, at least the top left border. The image of the reverse is blurry compared to the front image so it's hard to see the other corners. Just to find out if I had it right, should the border on the reverse be solid? BTW, I'm not saying I think this card is questionable. I haven't yet asked the seller for a clearer picture, and I don't know if I'm correct about the border.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SUPERB-1928-BABE...item1e5eb9ffc8

drc · #5 12-30-2010, 02:36 AM

My guess is Beckett is good with Fro Joys. An expert Fro Joy collector said Beckett graded authentic Fro Joys, and the collector is knowledgeable with the cards.

I never understood why PSA and SGC quit grading them.

fkw · #6 12-30-2010, 04:20 AM

I agree that maybe they stopped because of the high % of fakes out there.

It would be a hassle grading these when 95+% of the cards submitted are rejected.

fkw · #7 12-30-2010, 04:46 AM

PSA needs to STOP grading these, they seem to grade the fakes very often.

The PSA-5 graded card in Greg's post (slidding) posted above is a bit different that known authentic cards (link I posted above to a sheet obtained with original envelop and premium)
If you compare the images, the PSA-5 card lacks clarity and has contrast issues. Also the first line on description end in "Babe on the sheet, while this PSA-5 card has "Babe" ... with 2 quote (") marks.

another example of boneheaded PSA screwing up... (blue tint cards are ALL fakes, let alone ones with extremely bad contrast)

PS. Another strange thing is the SGC example above is missing the dotted line (cut line) on the wide left border, its wide enough that the dotted line should show.

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