Help identifying issue PLUS real or fake? (three more)

[FrankWakefield]

I have doubts about the authenticity of that Ruth, which would be a W517 if real.

Have you put a black light to them?

[RobertGT]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

I have doubts about the authenticity of that Ruth, which would be a W517 if real.

Have you put a black light to them?

No, I don't have a black light. Any other dead give-aways I should look for?
Thanks.

[fkw]

The R333 O'Doul is a reprint
The borders are too wide even though its trimmed. Also the border should blend into the clouds where they touch, also the players name at bottom should be crisper with the holes in letters like "R" "A" should be larger and cleaner. The uniform is off color too.

this one is low grade but you can see the difference in quality and colors




The W517-1 looks like its authentic (99.9997% sure ). If its a fake Ive never seen that good of one before. The most common reprints on those will have "W-517" printed in the lower corner border (usually seen scuffed off), and the back card stock is white and smooth.

The Sepia versions of the W517-1 have a back like your color and also a more cream color. All of the authentic cards have a rough surface card stock, unlike the most common reprints which have a smooth card stock.

Sepia W517-1

[FrankWakefield]

I agree with what my fellow Frank has posted.

The dashed lines at the top of the Ruth are correct, sometimes reprints depict dots there. The lighter color at the lower left and lower right corners trouble me. If that cardstock was originally a white finish, and someone printed that brown Ruth on there, that lightening of the corners might occur as someone attempted to 'age' the reprint. A black light would go a LONG way toward resolving authenticity. A very modest investment with tremendous reliability. The dark frame looks correct. It's the light color on the corners that look wrong. It may well be fine. A bit of uv light is needed.

[fkw]

Another thing I didnt point out is the back has a subtle age discolor all the way around it, thats a good sign.

I went and read more in past posts, the common reprint have a glossy surface on front and a pure white back along with the "W-517" in bottom left corner.

FWIW, If I saw that Ruth on eBay with that scan I wouldnt think twice about buying it, Id buy it right away without looking further. No red flags to me.

[esd10]

the black light doesnt always work i have a fake d304 that doesnt glow under a black light.

[Exhibitman]

Add my vote to the consensus on the DeLong; definitely a fake. The Ruth does look good. Since it is a valuable card if you are planning to offer it for sale send it to SGC and get a professional opinion you can use rather than doing a 'looks good to me but I don't know' listing--I hate those.