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Old 12-22-2010, 07:38 AM
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Default A slightly different reason

For keeping a card that "does not exist" in a printed tome.

is that if you suspect someone is "stealing" your data; having a false entry in your book or data base can be proved in a court of law. For years it was believe Who's Who in America always printed a few false biographies each year to find out exactly who might be interested in stealing their data.

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For keeping a card that "does not exist" in a printed tome.

is that if you suspect someone is "stealing" your data; having a false entry in your book or data base can be proved in a court of law. For years it was believe Who's Who in America always printed a few false biographies each year to find out exactly who might be interested in stealing their data.

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That tripped up CPU many years ago, at least initially.
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:51 PM
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Map publishers do the same thing - fake streets.
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For keeping a card that "does not exist" in a printed tome.

is that if you suspect someone is "stealing" your data; having a false entry in your book or data base can be proved in a court of law. For years it was believe Who's Who in America always printed a few false biographies each year to find out exactly who might be interested in stealing their data.

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A wonderful theory except...checklists--which are by definition pure compilations of pre-existing data--cannot be copyrighted. The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished from the preexisting material employed in the work, and does not imply any exclusive right in the preexisting material. If you were to publish a wrong checklist and someone used it, you could prove he used it but not get anything else, because you don't own the checklist. Though I guess you would own the mistake...
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It wasn't the "Checklist" which brought down CPU -- it was using the exact same pricing structure as it came to Bill Virdon cards -- semi-star every year except for 1963 which was not listed as a semi-star which brought down CPU

My point was that to put in incorrect data can be a trap -- but Adam is right; checklists themselves are public documents but if anything is added that is when the plagarism can take place. If a card is added to a checklist and then someone else steals that card and you are able to prove that you did that as a trap I believe you would win in a court of law but that is a borderline lssue.

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As I recall (and I may be misremembering it) the case wasn't fought--CPU just folded in the face of the demand--so we don't know what might have been the outcome.
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As I recall (and I may be misremembering it) the case wasn't fought--CPU just folded in the face of the demand--so we don't know what might have been the outcome.
Beckett won the case and CPU was ordered to pay monies. Instead of paying the monies, Mark Lewis then folded up the CPU ship and CPU ceased publication.

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Nevermind, already posted.
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please prove me wrong if u can anyone?
1941 harry hartman debt of gratitude DOES EXIST
1946 sports exchange aaron robinson throwing ?
1952 num num kennedy with the tab? ?
1962 kahns perry indians back
1962 kahns purkey no autograph
1962 topps stamp panel white/mcbride DOES EXIST
1963 idl pirates bob skinner DOES EXIST
1969 kahns ron santo red DOES NOT EXIST
1969 fleer 3-d team trophy expos DOES NOT EXIST
1962 fleer logos mets colts twins angels these are redbacks DOES NOT EXIST
1967 punchouts gibson grote campaneris macmillan b.robinson 100% sure these dont exist DO NOT EXIST
1968 plaks mays EXISTS OTHERS? aaron peters robinson drysdale 99% sure

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